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Thanks for the feedback

Fizzwheel it seems to be doing the below :

I.e do the dash lights dim, is there a buzzing / clicking coming from somewhere near the riders seat.

It normally struggles when it is cold anyway - but eventually kicks into life and then absolutely fine.
At the moment i can hear it is trying to start but sounds like the starter motor wont have any of it and the more i try the more it diminishes - if the small clicking sound starts i give up completely cause it seems that the battery has effectively given up !