thanks for the input everyone
prity much what i thought, if i do buy another 650 which i probably will il get the handling sorted and sort the seat out with something comfier and also get a set of superbike bars on it to make a more forgiving riding position. Agree with big ape that there is no real alternative to the sv in the medium sized v twin area i mean there is the the aprilia shiver but im not convinced on that small ducati ermm no dont think so. Think its about time suzuki gave the sv a make over.