Originally Posted by pencil shavings

I feel your point might be contradictory, maybe ive miss interpreted it. You cant have freedom and protection of the individual, they are mutually exclusive if you are talking about only 1 life.

I should be able to take what ever drugs I want, then go for a sky jump, if i feel fit. none of my actions will have a direct effect on anyone. But the 'nanny state' state interfears in an attempt to preseve my life. But I argue, that the state does not have a right to interfear in this.