ClunkintheUK

I Won't argue that Disco2. I've seen some horrific cycling in London and Bristol. My point was there is a step between "lots of Cyclists/bikers/wombat enthusiasts are idiots" to "All cyclists have a death wish so i'm not going to bother looking out for them".

Even as a cyclist I get very annoyed at a lot of other cyclists, but then I get annoyed at Minicabs, scooters, buses, 4X4's, Minis, People Carriers, pedestrians all with very specific complaints to the particular group. I just think that most people do not think much beyond what is right in front of their nose whatever vehicle they use.

I have had another cyclist properly shouting at me for getting in the way because i did not go up the inside of an artic that was indicating left. I got out his way then funnily enough he had to jump on the pavement 2 seconds later, and I sailed past overtaking the lorry on the right hand side.