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Originally Posted by hutchy
Quick grip clamp - rigid grip but no metal to mark the shiny stuff especially if your adjustments include swivelling the exhaust.
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Fair point...
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Originally Posted by hutchy
If the right tool had been used in the first place (point I was trying to make) it wouldn't be damaged, assuming reasonable access slot the head with a junior hack saw blade and remove with a bladed screwdriver.
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That's an easier and better solution than grips is it?
Considering that you're also contending with a mangled phillips head on those screws, cutting a new slot is probably less likely to work than using grips. Leaving aside that those screws are very easy to damage even with the ideal tool, they're very soft and tend to be sticky.
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Originally Posted by hutchy
Not exactly using it as a tool just as a replacement part so doesn't count but maybe a good tip for BMW 650 riders - 'always carry a small mole grip'.
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But y'see, that's my point... They're very useful tools, just as long as you don't misuse them. I think you're just judging them based on the disasters that bodgers create with them.