Originally Posted by Mike1234

But that's the point I was making, I've seen frames snap from relatively light crashes and have seen bikes escape with just a bent subframe or two after cartwheeling down the track.

It doesn't mean the welds are dangerous just that the bike got twisted in a particular way. Given how strong the forks are on the GSXRs the amount of force going through the headstock in an awkward crash, even at low speed, would be immense.

Would either of these bikes ever realistically fail without an impact, i.e. whilst you were riding them? Nah, that's just not going to happen!