first of all i respect all your opinions and i am not going to just shrug my shoulders and say "im getting an R6 anyway" because there would be no point posting if i wasn't going to listen, i had considered the sv before but like someone said in a reply if its not wanted you wanted deep down then you wont be happy with it im going to have a long hard think about it - my test wont be for a fair few weeks anyway since i have yet to book it hmmm im a bit confuffled now i really do love the R6 lol