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Old 03-04-06, 10:57 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Ceri JC
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Originally Posted by timwilky
Personally I would like to see the removal of a riders ability to ride unaccompanied as a learner.

Most accidents with bikes are surely stupid kids on their twist & go, no proper protection beyond a cheap ill fitting lid.

At least if accompanied, by a qualified rider not neccasarily an approved instructor, they have the benifit of riding critic, instruction and example. I would ideally like to see the CBT become a test and of increased duration.

Sorry if this sounds like I am having a downer on learners, I am not. I would like to see more people on bikes. But as qualified riders not as learners. I personally see things like the restricted license as unhelpful. As there is little that can be done to easily establish at the side of the road whether a bike is in fact restricted.

I started my riding career on 250s as a learner in the 70s and regard the 125 as an unsuitable learner bike. Give them more power, but at the same time ensure that they are instructed/trained in its use.
Have to say I agree with this. I'm amazed at how many bikers are vehemently anti-DAS, given how much more relevant the experience is to riding a proper bike, rather than just messing about on your own on a 125. I've often seen 125 riders on L plates hesitating, or even completely stopped when confronted with an unusal hazard or junction/whatever, but when I overtake them, they happily follow (well, before I accelerate )and seen reasonably safe doing so. I think them just going out with a mate who has passed (so long as the mate isn't riding like a knob) is a good way of getting experience. I know a lot of my "post test" learning was done by following better/more experienced riders and watching what they do.
I agree and I'm still learning now as I've only passed my test for 6 months now and there are still things i am learning. Having done the DAS and experienced other riders riding like maniacs on high powered machines you do start to wonder about the sanity of letting people get on the big stuff straight after passing their test. So in short im all in favour of the new laws as it may save some of our beretherans lives.
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