Minitwins, pointy, curvy, what's the REAL diff?

Some of you may have read my pointy verses curvy thread.

Anyway in summery without spending a mint, can I ever make a curvy truly competitive against a pointy?

For thems that have watched/followed the minitwin series, where does the highest place curvy come?? I realise this might be slightly skewed as the top riders might have the budget for the better/newer bikes. But the question still stands … who is the most successful curvy rider in 06 and where did they come?

Also for those that have raced curvy and pointy, in real terms is there much difference in feel and/or power???

With a top-end refresh and some later cams my engine should be as strong as the pointys right??

Is there any 'real world' chassis/brakes advantage on the pointy?

ta

With pointy cams there is no reason why the carb'd bike cannot be competitive although you will need to make sure the bike is running at 'race temperature' when you do the jetting otherwise the power can drop off in a race due to the temperature changes.

Carb'd bikes are, generally, slightly lighter. Brakes on the newer bikes are usually better, more down to maintenance than any design changes though. Carb'd bikes don't suffer from the suspect crank although the failure rate is very low for the early fuel injected motors.

Originally Posted by Mike1234

With pointy cams there is no reason why the carb'd bike cannot be competitive although you will need to make sure the bike is running at 'race temperature' when you do the jetting otherwise the power can drop off in a race due to the temperature changes.

Carb'd bikes are, generally, slightly lighter. Brakes on the newer bikes are usually better, more down to maintenance than any design changes though. Carb'd bikes don't suffer from the suspect crank although the failure rate is very low for the early fuel injected motors.

Am I right in thinking it's within the rules that you could (and people regularly do) combine parts of both carb'd and FI bikes to make a "best of breed" bike that has the best aspects of the two?

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

Am I right in thinking it's within the rules that you could (and people regularly do) combine parts of both carb'd and FI bikes to make a "best of breed" bike that has the best aspects of the two?

Yep.

[TSM]

Can you put an FI engine in a carbed frame if you wanted?

Originally Posted by TSM

Can you put an FI engine in a carbed frame if you wanted?

Yep. Already been done by a couple of people. If you want the oil cooler you will need a new front header pipe but there is no reason not to if you have one cheap enough. I'd rather just chuck the cams in myself but...

Ok, so sounds like we still have potential here ....

My next question is how much do a set of later cams go for?? and is there any year that was a better/best/most suitable profile?

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

My next question is how much do a set of later cams go for?? and is there any year that was a better/best/most suitable profile?

Depends if buying new or second hand. Would also recomment changing cam chain tensioners and, if the budget allows, the buckets as well.

Might be worth PM'ing 'The Mass' as he had a damaged fuel injected engine he wanted shot of. Can't see why the cams would be damaged or, more importantly if one or two of them were, you could still use all the other bits.

[northwind]

I've got a set of K3 exhaust cams with their buckets... New intakes are £120, or were when I swapped mine... But like Mike says, if you can find a blown up K3 engine, chances are it'll have big end problems and the tops are fine. Gets you the better cam chain tensioners into the bargain. If it's a really recent one you could fire in the newer shift star to boot for slightly better gear changes. Rich pickings on a blown up SV motor You can even sell the heads and barrels on when you're done, and maybe the outer cases too.

give me a few months and if all goes tits up i might have a fI engine for sale with 6.5k on the clock.