Chains cropped in seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hF...elated&search=

I think I'll be going for the fattest Almax I can get my hands on!

just get good insurance if they want it that bad they will take it.

Did I miss the bit where Almax put their chain to the test?

And is it just me or did the independant witness from the reader's digest look like a child?

Originally Posted by andyaikido

Did I miss the bit where Almax put their chain to the test?

And is it just me or did the independant witness from the reader's digest look like a child?

Different vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozppz...elated&search=

And yes, the rider's digest lad looks about 4.

EDIT: As someone pointed out in the utube comments, whilst unbreakable, almax 19mm chains are hardly portable. Great for ground anchoring the bike in the garage. Not so hot when you're away from home. IMO, spending any significant amount of money on a portable chain is a waste as they are only any real use for detering opportunistic amateur theives.

interesting vid

[northwind]

Not exactly news... Depressingly, Ride were still reporting that Sold Secure chains provide several minutes of resistance to hand tools in the last issue (or was it Bike? Can't tell them apart)- all of the chains in the article were hand croppable. I had a go myself at the scottish show last year, using the same Izumi croppers. Oxford Monster, snip snip. Amazingly easy. Almax? Could barely dent it, myself, and the link I attacked had already had plenty of people try.

They were also demonstrating that the "keep it off the floor" trick doesn't work, since with crops it doesn't matter where it is.

Still, I don't own an Almax- my bathplug Oxford is purely to deter amateurs, the Almax is too hefty and also costs as much as my excess. A chain you won't use is worse than a rubbish one that you will.

Originally Posted by northwind

Not exactly news... Depressingly, Ride were still reporting that Sold Secure chains provide several minutes of resistance to hand tools in the last issue (or was it Bike? Can't tell them apart)- all of the chains in the article were hand croppable. I had a go myself at the scottish show last year, using the same Izumi croppers. Oxford Monster, snip snip. Amazingly easy. Almax? Could barely dent it, myself, and the link I attacked had already had plenty of people try.

They were also demonstrating that the "keep it off the floor" trick doesn't work, since with crops it doesn't matter where it is.

Still, I don't own an Almax- my bathplug Oxford is purely to deter amateurs, the Almax is too hefty and also costs as much as my excess. A chain you won't use is worse than a rubbish one that you will.

Anyone who has seen me post about this subject in the past knows where i stand with almax so i wont go on about how good they are. Interesting to see that some of the other lesser known manufacturers are coming up with equally impressive stuff(no i dont have any links) although until i have seen them tested i still maintain that almax is by far the best out there currently.

I still stand by the theory that anybike strif will always steal the one that is easiest to get to. so if your bike is there with just a disc lock on it expect it to go walkies however if your bike is next to one with a disc lock on it and yours is chained to the floor with a relatively meaty lock it will be the other one that goes first. lets face it also the SV is a common as muck bike in loads of bike bays around the country so it shouldnt be too hard to find one thats lesser secured than your own so even if the bikes aree being stolen to order the other SV is easier to get too.

of course i could be spouting complete bull**** but you never know i might just have a point

So someone equipped with a suitably massive pair of bolt croppers and a suitably massive belly can chop through pretty much any chain in under a min .. realllyyyy?!!?!?!?

If someone wants your bike they will have it ... people break into bank volts with the correct equipment to hand ... you are just preventing the opportunist/ill equipped kids, a pro thief will have your bike whatever!!


To me spend £30 on a chunky looking chain/lock fix to an immovable object (or ground anchor) and have done with it ... as the video proves, to the pro thief, there is little benefit in a £100 chain over that ...

Better still buy 3x £30 chains over 1x £100 chain ... you will buy more break-in time per pound Lets face it those fine specimens in the vid would have had a heart attack before they chopped 3 consecutive chains as fast as possible!! ... they would have to have had a 5 min rest after the second to get their breath back for the 3rd ... this buys you your Thatcham 5+ min!! They would prolly say screw-that, go have a fag and find some poor other suckers bike!!

I bought one the 19mm Almax chains last year and the thing is a beast. Not really portable, but then I never carried my old english chain around with me and that came with a free carrier! Maybe it's peace of mind or just a big deterrent, but bottom line is I don't want my bike to get nicked, so spending a few extra quid to me makes sense. The only downside is I can't fit it through the hole in the swingarm, whereas a smaller chain will, so I have to use a combination of both.

Originally Posted by lukemillar

The only downside is I can't fit it through the hole in the swingarm, whereas a smaller chain will, so I have to use a combination of both.

A valid point. Where exactly on an SV can you feed a 19mm almax (without it being attached to something you can disconnect as fast as you could crop a gash chain, like pillion pegs, wheel, etc.)?