Arranged marriages - Master race

Been discussing these with an colleague of mine, she had an arranged marriage (against her will) and she was saying how her niece is being pressured for an arranged marriage now. Her niece actually wants to go off to uni, but not allowed to as she needs to get married (according to her family). Some of the stuff she comes out with that women are expected and not expected to do sounds so backwards! .. Anyway, that is a side issue!!

I have had many conversations with my colleague finding out about her traditions and the Indian culture as it is facinating, as mentioned, much of it ‘scares’ me though, the naivety and isolation of the women. But partially the racist views against others. Basically if you married a white man, or worse still a black man you would be shunned by the traditionalists.

So, back to what prompted this thread in particular.

Arranged marriages – basically the parents find a suitor and there are certain criteria. Stating heritage and profession, even looks (any disability, even down to silly stuff like a ‘lazy eye’ is highly undesirable and puts you well down the pecking order).

So what is the difference between this culture and trying to achieve a master race?!?!? … if you look at it like that it is quite horrific isn’t it

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

So what is the difference between this culture and what Hitler was trying to achieve with his master race?!?!? … if you look at it like that it is quite horrific isn’t it

I hereby invoke Godwins Law, declare Blue the loser of the discussion and call for a Mod to lock this thread :P

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

I hereby invoke Godwins Law, declare Blue the loser of the discussion and call for a Mod to lock this thread :P

I have taken the reference to Hitlers views out!

As for locking it, if my colleague is happy to openly discuss this stuff with me, I don't see why it needs to be locked .. why can't it be discussed here? who are you trying to protect?

Religion ey Full of weird crap

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Religion ey Full of weird crap

Don't get religion and culture confused

The two are linked, but there is a distinction!

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

If I took the reference to Hitler out would it then be allowable? If my colleague is happy to openly discuss this stuff with me, I don't see why it needs to be locked .. who are you trying to protect?

LOL Blue - was only funning - was expecting someone knowledgeable of Godwins Law (or who had read the link I posted) to invoke Quirks Exception on my post :P

Anyways, back on topic.....

Racism is a funny one.

In this country it is usually only invoked when a White person is "supressing" a non-White.

However I have seen arguments in the street between men of similar skin colour but one from Africa and one from the Carribean.

Most of the comments made would, in my opinion be classable as racist, yet that card was never played, even tho they were from different cultures/countries.

Anyone of any race saying "you cant go out with that boy/girl" because of race is being racist, end of.

I often think that as a White guy in the UK/London I am possibly one of the most discriminated against people there is due to what I can and cant say/do (like use the N word.......)

[timwilky]

I had a colleague who was very well educated. His PHD was in nuclear physics and he had spent years on reactor engineering. His family wanted him to have an arranged marriage. Give up his employment to run a corner shop. They refused to accept that he was of a different generation, education to his parents and when he refused they threatened to cut off all family ties.

I have another colleague who is a networks engineer. Her family again pressured her to marry. When she refused, she got the well lets just have a holiday in Pakistan and meet up with family. She left home the following day for work and never went home. She actually told her mother that she didn't trust them.


As for the master race. I thought they didn't care about marriage. Wasn't Himmler telling senior SS that it was their duty to spawn as many aryan progeny as the Lebensborn program

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Don't get religion and culture confused

The two are linked, but there is a distinction!

Religion is person's beliefs and opinions concerning the existence, nature, and worship of God, a god, or gods, and divine involvement in the universe and human life.

Whereas 'Culture' is a large bird of prey with usually dark feathers and broad wings that feed on carrion. Often found on African plains.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Religion ey Full of weird crap

+1!
Not going to even comment... I'd only end up offending people with my 'non-religious views' which I'd rather not do

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Racism is a funny one.

In this country it is usually only invoked when a White person is "supressing" a non-White.

But when it's the other way it's perfectly alright.

Originally Posted by timwilky

As for the master race. I thought they didn't care about marriage. Wasn't Himmler telling senior SS that it was their duty to spawn as many aryan progeny as the Lebensborn program

That was in my understanding the idea of it, but just because marriage is involved here, and wasn't then, doesn't mean that the result of this isn't a "purer" breed of indian.


My Mother used to work on the special care baby unit, and apparently the 'stanis are very bad for this, more into each others cousins than the lancastrians (heh heh), as their culture apparantly means "buying in" to the family, which doesn't happen if they're already related. Leads to loads of problems with birth defects and such.