manchester uni, hang your head in shame.

front page of the manchester evening news tonight reported that m/c uni are to take a vote next week on banning the armed forces from their campus. under a proposal officers from the army, raf, and navy would be barred from setting up stalls for the next three years because they object to the recruitment of young people to fight in what they say as 'unjust wars'.

members of families, sons, fathers, daughters and mothers have paid the ultimate sacrafice so that people can enjoy freedom and students can freely go to uni and yet they see fit to give this policy the time of day.

i'm not tarring all students with the same brush, i do have a hunch on who the particular students that are objecting, but i think i'll keep that to myself.

Surely the students who object to the unjust wars would be better banning poloticians etc from the campus, and not the armed forces.

This could be a dangerous move, and could create within this country an anti-forces feeling akin to that experienced by the American forces during & after Vietnam. The people in the US took out there anti-war feelings on the service personnel, and it took a long time for the "nation" to show it's debt of gratitude, I mean just look at the number of films about the feelings towards the service personnel, Rambo, Born on 4th July, Deer hunter etc.

I for one would hate to see any anti service personnel feelings develop, no-one joins up to specifically to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, they join up because for their own reason they want to be in the forces.

If those at University feel these wars are "unjust", then don't go to the recruiting drive or whatever it is. By banning such things all they are doing is denying the rights of those that are considering such a career to go along and ask questions etc.

Spoiled gits.

That is outragous.
I suppose it's another case of how soft this country has got over the years.
I was in the RAF for 14 years and if I was banned from going anywhere just because of the fact I was in the forces I would certainly be kicking up a stink against it.
This country owes an awful lot to the forces both past and present. If it were not for their dedication to do what they were told, even if they may disagree, then the freedom to live our lives as we want would be questionable. It's a sad state we are in when the very people who defend our freedom are not allowed freedom themselves.
Things like this are destroying "our country" and I feel encouraging people towards having the racist views and opinions that we are not allowed to have.

Though I agree with you guys lets make sure we understand they are asking for the recruiters to be banned.....not the people in the forces.

though it might lead to people having ill feelings for the armed forces they are only trying to get the recruiters off campus.

If other company's are able to attend / represaent themselves at recruitment fairs held at the university, then so should our armed services.

Look at quotes below, what world do they actually think they live in!!

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...rom-classrooms

Do they honestly believe that this world would be a safer place with no military, and they are teaching our kids!

hey you never know! the plan might be to change the UK to a new Switzerland

there are 2 ways to protect a country......either by strong army or by a strong economy

But either of them still need a strong goverment. Do we have one of them ?? I think not.

Originally Posted by ukgooner

Do they honestly believe that this world would be a safer place with no military, and they are teaching our kids!

The world would be safer if noone had a military

I agree, it is ilogical and can only cause problems if they are banned. Universities are ment to be a haven for rational though at the expense of norms and free expression. Unfortunatly it is not like this in my experiance.

People should be able to make up their own minds! If you start banning and controlling things then we have no freedom anymore