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Old 30-06-08, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Any of you lot sold a house since the new part P

Our house is going on the market in the next 4 weeks ish..

Now when i moved in i fitted a new bathroom and new kitchen, Both required electrical work.

I added to an existing main in the kitchen and added some lights in the bathroom, all was done properly with the correct fittings and methods, but I did it myself and didnt get it signed off by a sparky...

Am i up pooh canal in a barbed wire canoe with out a preverbial padel?

I know the HIP dosent look at this stuff but will the solicitor?

I can head it off now by getting someone in, but its money to spend that I dont have atm and really done want to spend.

please either scare me into action or put my mind at rest.

the heating was signed of by a corgi engineer and the widnows habe thier fensa Cert... its just the electrics I didnt have the money for.

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Old 30-06-08, 09:55 AM   #2
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"Was like that when I got here..."
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Old 30-06-08, 10:01 AM   #3
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It will be cheaper - considerably so I would think - to write a lack of building regulations indemnity policy.

As long as you can satisfy the following assumptions:

There has been no contact with the local authority.
The alterations and additions were carried out at least 12 months ago without objection.
The residential dwelling is not listed.
The nature of the works were either: an extension; a conservatory; a single storey garage; internal alterations (but not a conversion into flats or change of use); installation of a boiler or other electrical installations; replacement of windows or doors.
The Land is located in England or Wales.


Then the cost will be £29.40 to incluse insurance premium tax.

Your lawyer should be able to write the cover on line so no hassle and no delay.

Ed

EDIT - above premium assumes a sale price of £150K.

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Old 30-06-08, 10:11 AM   #4
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Default Re: Any of you lot sold a house since the new part P

Part P is a total pain. I use it to now stop friends/family doing the "Tim can you" bit as I am not qualified to do what I have done for 20 years

I should have stock piled thousands of reels of red/back so everything was done pre part p
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Old 30-06-08, 10:18 AM   #5
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Silly question maybe..... Do ALL electrics need to be signed off by a qualified electrician?! Surely not..
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Old 30-06-08, 10:29 AM   #6
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No, only domestic work needs to be Part P approved. I/you can do commercial

You are only allowed to replace circuits but not add new. But bathroom/kitchen work needs to be signed off.

It is daft. I had electrical engineers who worked for me. They design power stations for a living and cannot install a simple domestic circuit because they do not have the lowest form of qualification. Degree in electical engineering but not qualified
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Old 30-06-08, 10:47 AM   #7
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It will be cheaper - considerably so I would think - to write a lack of building regulations indemnity policy.

As long as you can satisfy the following assumptions:

There has been no contact with the local authority.
The alterations and additions were carried out at least 12 months ago without objection.
The residential dwelling is not listed.
The nature of the works were either: an extension; a conservatory; a single storey garage; internal alterations (but not a conversion into flats or change of use); installation of a boiler or other electrical installations; replacement of windows or doors.
The Land is located in England or Wales.


Then the cost will be £29.40 to incluse insurance premium tax.

Your lawyer should be able to write the cover on line so no hassle and no delay.

Ed

EDIT - above premium assumes a sale price of £150K.
Thats fantastic news ed.

Many thanks

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Old 30-06-08, 11:31 AM   #8
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Default Re: Any of you lot sold a house since the new part P

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No, only domestic work needs to be Part P approved. I/you can do commercial

You are only allowed to replace circuits but not add new. But bathroom/kitchen work needs to be signed off.

It is daft. I had electrical engineers who worked for me. They design power stations for a living and cannot install a simple domestic circuit because they do not have the lowest form of qualification. Degree in electical engineering but not qualified
My dads like that. Hes a retired pumbing and heating engineer, had more apprentices than hot dinners, had 3.5 thousand people working for him In Saudi, and I trust him 100 percent with all my plumbing/gas. I know its not leccy, but you still need certs for stuff in your house to sell......I don't, but its a good job theres a corgi reg guy next door so i can get him to check everything when I sell up!

I know all these regs are for safety and to stop cowboys, and for the purposes of house buyers give reassurance, but in my dads case he retired as he said he didn't see why he should pay money for a certificate that he could probably teach the teacher more about!!
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Old 30-06-08, 10:03 PM   #9
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Part P originally came into force on 1st Jan 2005.

All my electrical stuff in the kitchen, bathroom, outside, was done before then, as I suspect yours was.
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I completely rewired my house (in the new colours too) - but at the end of 2004...so I got away with it! Never so much as replaced a light switch before, but with common sense, research, the assistance of a helpful sparky and a healthy respect for electricity it wasn't too difficult.

I got it checked by the sparky at work who is qualified, but it wasn't documented in any way as it wasn't required.

I bought all the cable in red/black, then at the advice of the sparky sent it back and swapped for the new colours. It dates the rewire at no earlier than 2004, just incase someone asks at a later date should I sell the house. Good idea I suppose.
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