so she obviously deserved it...

[anna]

I know this type of thing normally ends in a locked thread somewhere along the line but I still dont see why it cant be brought up.... this article... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7555299.stm ... has really angered me.

They are in effect saying that because a woman drinks she is obviously asking to be raped and shouldnt be given as much compensation for when it happens! What century are we living in!!!

Originally Posted by anna

They are in effect saying that because a woman drinks she is obviously asking to be raped and shouldnt be given as much compensation for when it happens! What century are we living in!!!

I thought that that decision had been overturned.

Originally Posted by anna

They are in effect saying that because a woman drinks she is obviously asking to be raped and shouldnt be given as much compensation for when it happens! What century are we living in!!!

Did you read the article properly? They're actually saying the opposite.

It [the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority] has issued a statement acknowledging it should not have happened in any case and confirming it is not its policy to reduce compensation for rape victims because of alcohol consumption.

seems like a non story to me...

[anna]

It has but there are still a number of other cases out there that havent as yet!..

sorry post was written hastily I understand that this article is saying that they have now reviewed it etc I'm just stunned that it was ever the case that compensation would be cut if alcohol was involved.

[jambo]

The story this morning was that this decision had been overturned, and that several other cases where a similar verdict had been reached were going to be examined.

It is not, as far as I am aware a current policy that a woman is deemed to have been partly responsible for the rape if she had alcohol in her system.

Chill hon

Jambo

Edit: in the first instance, a bad result was reached, this is why we have an appeals procedure, which has worked.

[anna]

Originally Posted by jambo

The story this morning was that this decision had been overturned, and that several other cases where a similar verdict had been reached were going to be examined.

It is not, as far as I am aware a current policy that a woman is deemed to have been partly responsible for the rape if she had alcohol in her system.

Chill hon

Jambo

Edit: in the first instance, a bad result was reached, this is why we have an appeals procedure, which has worked.

...sorry see post above... I wasnt getting out of my pram over this decision only over the fact that it was initially procedure!

[the_lone_wolf]

without knowing the ins and outs of this case i'll say take these comments in a general sense, not aimed at this woman at all...

but...

what if a woman has drunk so much that they are struggling to stay on their feet?

what if they are so drunk they don't know what they're doing and consent to things that they wouldn't do when sober?

obviously having a drink or two in no way excuses the act of someone raping you, but sorry, you have to accept the consequences of getting so drunk you're not with it, if it's losing your phone, having your bag taken when you pass out, getting raped or even being killed when you stumble accross the road/railway tracks.

her lawyer's argument was that drinking has no effect on someone being raped, which in my view is tosh - if they were so drunk they couldn't resist or shout for help, or even cause them to consent to sex and then decide later they want to call it rape, they have brought the vunerability on themselves by acting in an irresponsible way, and although they didn't cause the attempt of rape to happen (unless the rapist was looking for someone who was an easy target?), their condition aggravated the results

so, flame suit donned, bunker locked - "Submit Reply"...

[21QUEST]

I hate our compensation culture.....

And of course , alcohol can be a contributing factor in cases(not talkign just about rape cases here)......



Ben

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

without knowing the ins and outs of this case i'll say take these comments in a general sense, not aimed at this woman at all...

but...

what if a woman has drunk so much that they are struggling to stay on their feet?

what if they are so drunk they don't know what they're doing and consent to things that they wouldn't do when sober?

obviously having a drink or two in no way excuses the act of someone raping you, but sorry, you have to accept the consequences of getting so drunk you're not with it, if it's losing your phone, having your bag taken when you pass out, getting raped or even being killed when you stumble accross the road/railway tracks.

her lawyer's argument was that drinking has no effect on someone being raped, which in my view is tosh - if they were so drunk they couldn't resist or shout for help, or even cause them to consent to sex and then decide later they want to call it rape, they have brought the vunerability on themselves by acting in an irresponsible way, and although they didn't cause the attempt of rape to happen (unless the rapist was looking for someone who was an easy target?), their condition aggravated the results

so, flame suit donned, bunker locked - "Submit Reply"...

Good post.


Ben