I,m moving to swindon

armagedon is coming or hell has frozen over one of the two. a bunch of politicians have had a good idea and implemented it, Swindon are scraping speed cameras! yes its true someone had the good idea that since speed cameras dont cut road deaths and are just a good way for the goverment to line there pockets they would take the money and use it for education, better street lighting and more police. i dont know about you but a concil that actually listens to people and takes action is a place where i want to live.

[Viney]

I was watching the news story on the lunchtime news and they have done a study to point out that only 6% of road deaths are attributed to speeding, the rest due to careless/wrieckless or tired driving!!

However, 6% is still a lot of people and families that have suffered because of it!

Will they all be out of action by Saturday, I'm coming up this weekend to see the folks...

yes many families have suffered and i am sorry for there loss but out of that 6% lots are the drivers who are at fault so if you educate the drivers the 6% figure would drop also the careless/ wreckless driveing numbers. unfortunatly driving is dangerous and will never be 100% safe but surely if you tackle the bigger problems you end up saving more lives overall.

Originally Posted by Viney

study to point out that only 6% of road deaths are attributed to speeding,

You'll probably find that it's even less than that. 6% (or whatever figure they're touting this week) relates to exessive speed for the conditions NOT exceding the posted limit, ie: the road where I live is a 30mph limit but it's so narrow and there are so many cars parked on it that even 15mph would be FAR too fast. A crash at 25mph would be put down to exessive speed for the conditions but it would not be breaking the legal limit.

sorry to hear of your bad news

Originally Posted by Viney

6% of road deaths are attributed to speeding

Actually it is 6% had speeding as a factor, that doesn't mean that was the only or main cause.

Originally Posted by Woz

6% (or whatever figure they're touting this week) relates to exessive speed for the conditions NOT exceding the posted limit, ie: the road where I live is a 30mph limit but it's so narrow and there are so many cars parked on it that even 15mph would be FAR too fast. A crash at 25mph would be put down to exessive speed for the conditions but it would not be breaking the legal limit.

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[timwilky]

speeding is one of those silly things. Most speeders are not driving dangerously, but are guilty of an offence. Doing 40 in a 40mph road may be legal and safe today, but tomorrow there may be thick fog and the legal 40 is positively dangerous.

Interesting my local plod has reduced yet again the number of traffic cops. We have in Lancashire 45 fewer traffic cops than in 1998 so god knows where they are spending all the extra money Gordon and his chums are supposed to be giving them. Ironically we have the 3rd highest rate of speed cameras. so I can understand why Dave wants to move. Especially as his area of Preston has more than it's fair share.

I have posted on here before about how a speed camera caused a speeding teenager to panic. Mount the pavement, hit my friends parents knocking him over the wall of a bridge into the river below and taking more than 3 years for him to walk again.

How did they respond to this. Reduce the speed from 40 to 30 and reset the camera to the lower limit. It did not address the reason for the crash. the camera itself. Ironically it points in the wrong direction to have got the kid who was speeding and he would have completed his drive quite safely had he not panicked and hit his brakes

Originally Posted by timwilky

speeding is one of those silly things. Most speeders are not driving dangerously, but are guilty of an offence. Doing 40 in a 40mph road may be legal and safe today, but tomorrow there may be thick fog and the legal 40 is positively dangerous.

Interesting my local plod has reduced yet again the number of traffic cops. We have in Lancashire 45 fewer traffic cops than in 1998 so god knows where they are spending all the extra money Gordon and his chums are supposed to be giving them. Ironically we have the 3rd highest rate of speed cameras. so I can understand why Dave wants to move. Especially as his area of Preston has more than it's fair share.

I have posted on here before about how a speed camera caused a speeding teenager to panic. Mount the pavement, hit my friends parents knocking him over the wall of a bridge into the river below and taking more than 3 years for him to walk again.

How did they respond to this. Reduce the speed from 40 to 30 and reset the camera to the lower limit. It did not address the reason for the crash. the camera itself. Ironically it points in the wrong direction to have got the kid who was speeding and he would have completed his drive quite safely had he not panicked and hit his brakes

that money has gone to bail out the banks...

correction the bank managers wages