ID Cards. Again.

I know this one's been done to death but I thought it interesting that finally released to the public reviews (after five years of legal wrangling I might add) show that the Police are very much keen on compulsion to carry, compulsion to produce, and DNA biometrics on the cards.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...eway_id_cards/

All the rubbish about how they'll benefit the individual more than the state and how carrying won't be compulsory and they won't contain DNA biometrics and the like is now easily seen (as was so often predicted) as just the entry position to get them in in the first place. The very first time some incompetent terrorist spectacularly fails to set fire to anyone other than himself outside a Glasgow airport or some such we'll see the rush through of sneak ammendments. Each one doubtless heralded by "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear".

I really really do not want this country to be one where you go to the park to play footie with your kids and they get to see daddy being carted away in a police van ("watch your head sir") because he wasn't carrying his ID.

Locked up for not carrying your "papers" versus living in a Police state more or less comes down to the same thing, no freedom. Damn it, for the first time in my life I find myself contemplating tactical voting and siding with the Blues next election - except I fear Cameron just says anything the latest focus group tells him to say, the Yellows I trust a bit more to their beliefs, but meh... what are the chances.

And before everyone just dismisses this as the left v. right, liberal yoghurt agenda bear in mind that even the BNP are quite keen on the Human Rights Act and freedom of speech when they find them in their interest. The concept of freedom should pretty much cross the political divide.

"Nothing to hide, nothing to fear"? That could be interpreted as "do nothing wrong and we'll leave you alone" - that's pretty much how western democracies have been run in the past. The interpretation we're moving toward however is "tell us everything you do, and we'll decide if it's wrong or not".

[Biker Biggles]

Now theres something you and I can agree about.

[the_lone_wolf]

Anarchy is better than no government at all...

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

Anarchy is better than no government at all...

Surely anarchy IS no government?

ID cards - stoopid idea, from stoopid people who don't understand security.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by simesb

Surely anarchy IS no government?

"That's the joke..."

[Biker Biggles]

I used to be an anarchist but they threw me out for not obeying the rules.

Originally Posted by simesb

Surely anarchy IS no government?

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

"That's the joke..."

I refuse to understand sarcasm on a Friday night

Well I've got nothing to hide.

Not from this government anyway. Can't speak for the next one, or the one after that...

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

..... Each one doubtless heralded by "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear"....

Just like our old friend Jack Straw and his decision to hide from the public for the next 30years the meetings that took us into an illegal war..

Clearly they had nothing to fear so they hid that not damaging evidence away from us for our own good, right?

Gosh we should know better that to ask questions of our govt when we doubt their honesty and we really need to get ID cards to make our lives so much easier. Mine is so complex right now that i think the only thing that will help is a small piece of plastic.

Democracy? Who the fek ever made that word up in the first place and what the hell was wrong with our ancestors that they didn't lynch the idiot on the spot?

Originally Posted by Tiger 55

Well I've got nothing to hide.

More sarcasm?