Casey Stoner

[dyzio]

Not wanting to derail the Philip Island thread.

Originally Posted by shonadoll

What was Stoner whingeing about today?

Originally Posted by TazDaz

Lack of rear grip or something. Every time he wins he still finds something to complain about!

Originally Posted by kwak zzr

i couldnt understand this either, born moaner me thinks.

Originally Posted by The Basket

Why say he didn't have enough grip? Why say he wanted to do faster times? He wanted more points???

I haven't been watching MotoGP for too long but I don't get what these comments are about.
I've seen the last race and you could see how the rear of the bike was sliding, so he said a few words about it after the race, so now he's a moaner? Every rider complains about something.
Why did he want to be faster? Because it was Rossi behind him, if he'd have a chance to overtake he'd go for it. Stoner simply wanted to build a bigger gap.

As for me, I like the guy, especially the fact that after a break in racing, he can win a race on a bike which no one else can control.

Or is this some sort of Brit/Aussie thing I don't get?

He always complains. He didn't NEED to go faster, because as you say Rossi was behind him - but NOT getting past him.

He was clearly the fastest this weekend, and he should take his win gracefully and STFU. He isn't the only one on track without a 'perfect' bike and setup. All the riders would want an improvement in one aspect or another, its just how it is.

If he has a problem with the bike that is causing him a real concern, he should take it to his team. After all, people listening to him in a press conference can't fix it for him can they?

Originally Posted by dyziowg

As for me, I like the guy, especially the fact that after a break in racing, he can win a race on a bike which no one else can control.

Or is this some sort of Brit/Aussie thing I don't get?

when i saw the heading i thought, here we go again.. stoner bashing..

i dont understand it.. the booing at the donnington motogp.. he cant open his mouth without someone having a go at him..

i am a huge Stoner fan... given up trying to understand the reasoning behind the Stoner bashing....

[maviczap]

Maybe he's chasing perfection, that's what all champions do.

They say the Duc is impossible for most people to ride, but he can, so I guess he hass the right to whinge a bit

I watched it yesterday and I thought he was bloomin great & I'm not a Rossi fan. Pity about Lorrenzo stuffing it up Haydens rear end though

[dyzio]

Originally Posted by amnesia

He didn't NEED to go faster, because as you say Rossi was behind him - but NOT getting past him.

Yup, but you have to admit, it doesn't take The Doctor long to change that, hence the need for a bigger gap.
You want to see riders going at their maximum performance, not people backing off becausee they feel they have a safe gap to the rider behind.
That's what it's all about

Originally Posted by amnesia

If he has a problem with the bike that is causing him a real concern, he should take it to his team. After all, people listening to him in a press conference can't fix it for him can they?

Fair enough, but he isn't the only one to do so. In fact whenever a driver/rider has a problem he talks about it, but only CS gets the abuse.

I am beginning to form new opinons of casey stoner. He made rossi work hard on sunday, really hard. And the way he could control that ducati through turn 3 with it sideways! Just brilliant. I can't say I'll ever be his biggest fan, but to go away for so long, then come back and only his second race back, with all the pressure of the home crowd, to win and so convincingly pummel rossi into submission (he visibly backed off in the last half a lap) - well, that deserves respect

I thought it was interesting when Ryder and Moody (and the other one) were talking about him, one of them said that EVERYONE in the paddock thinks that Casey has majestic throttle control. All this talk of "He just cracks the throttle wide open and lets the electronics do all the work for him" is just rubbish and it has been from day one. There've been loads of threads on this forum, with loads of crap written about Stoner. I don't get it either.

My opinion has vastly changed twice over the years I have gone from being a big fan through 250's into Moto GP to a hater last season to having the utmost respect for him this season. To give up any chance of a world championship (when lets face it, he's good enough to win it), to go and fix himself.

Yes he moans, but, he wants perfection.

He does want perfection. He said in his first press conference back about this- that if he wins but did not get the best from himself or the bike, then he's not happy. He races the track- the other guys are just in his way.

[Biker Biggles]

Apart from the GOAT he is the nearest thing we have to another GOAT.There have been very few great riders who have also been nice well rounded people as well as winners.Stoner is another great rider who may not be your best mate,but look at the others.Lorenzo?Hardly mister nice guy.Going back---Doohan Foggy?Miserable *******s at best but demons on the track.Even Barry Sheene who has had his personality re written by history was a thoroughly nasty bit of work when it suited him.Live with it and enjoy the races.