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7 | 17.95% |
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27 | 69.23% |
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4 | 10.26% |
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#1 |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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One of my Field Service Engineers has received a NIP for speeding, 80 in a 70.
Problem is just over a year ago he had accumulated 9pts for various speeding offences when he was caught again for speeding. We wrote to the court explaining his job role required him to drive. His Solicitor argued the potential excessive hardship if he lost his job, and the Court decided on 1pt added to his licence and a huge fine. Got call yesterday, "been caught speeding." And I guess it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a ban and a huge huge fine. I could keep him on and get other engineers to pick him up and drop him off at jobs until he serves out his ban. Its an expensive option but employing and training up another engineer costs approx £130,000. He is also one of the best guys I've got, and a replacement may turn out to be a numpty. Sack him, or keep him?
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If he needs to drive for his work he will just have to arrange his own transport at his own expense, whether its walking cycling or taxis. I knew someone who put his neighbours 18 yo kid on his policy, paid him £100 a week for the 3 months of the ban and allowed him to use the car when he wasn't driving him.
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80 mph in a 70mph, bit over the top.
I pass coppers at that speed loads of times on motorways. But he is obviously a serial speeder who doesnt pay attention to speed black spots, sack him, you're responsible for your own actions and therefore your own transport to jobs. In that role, you know the license is vital, should have been more careful IMO. |
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Keep him if he's a good un. So far its only a NIP.
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Seem to have answered your own question to me.........
He is your best engineer would cost you way more to train a new one and 80 in a 70????? OK I know the rules, but we have all done it havn't we???? Only difference is he has got caught. Should he have already learnt his leason, yes... will he now.....maybe. If he is having the law of this great country giving it to him in the testicle officially, why would you want to kick him when he is down as well.? As one poster said, make a point if you want to & tell him travel at his own expense, etc.etc. My 2p worth. |
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Yeah, I know your thinking hes an idiot and yeah anyone else on 9 points would be driving like they were a newbie drive (careful and slow) but he got caught and nothing you can do about it now, but if he is a hard worker and does the job right and you can count on him to pull through for you on a job that you send him to, then he is a keeper. At the end of the day its only transport and he will just have to wait around for lifts or sort out his own transport to and from jobs.
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Keep him.
Lower his wages to take into account that you have to finance his transport. If he doesn't like it and kicks up a stink explain to him that he is more than welcome to seek other employment. Mind you, would other employment be easy to find without a licence? If you ask me he deserves to lose his job if he is ignoring the good nature of the authorities and yourself by holding back a ban previously. If you keep him then he should appreciate how lucky he is. Are you able to change the conditions of his employment to reflect his situation? |
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If you can afford to keep him then do so. He's an asset in his knowledge but a plonker in his van.
I can nearly guarantee a ban on conviction, especially after pleading his last case. Pete ![]()
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There is lots of very skilled, yet jobless engineers in the Market at the moment to choose from.
There is only so many chances you can give someone. |
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I'd keep but I would see if I could recover the cost of transport... a ban's inevitable, depends how long it's for I spose, incidentally if you don't have a contract clause allowing you to deduct thenn you need his consent.
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