want a evo or scobby, sorry your to young

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12748384
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bout time too.

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I can think of 12 kids that have died recently in my area (last 2 years)... None were high performance cars, one was a 1.6 206, another was a 1.0 106 and the other a Saxo... All of them crashed with 4 in the car and after 10 o clock at night, and none will doubt they were showing off to their mates.

Cars are not the problem attitude and stupidity is. Banning new drivers from carrying passengers after 6pm would have a much bigger impact.

Yep we've had a few here as well G, saxo was one of the ones I remember most recently.
I've always said cars should be like bikes, a set limit on bhp for 2 years, top speed limited to 70 mph etc.

Agree passengers after 6pm might help as well, enforcement is the problem though, police already over stretched.

Insurance on fast cars for young people is what normally stops kids getting these cars.

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i was about to post the same as G and specialpleb..... just go to the local KFC, macdonalds, halfords and looks at the nobjocks sat outside, their cars couldn't push the 15 secs 0-60 yet they are the ones in question

i ran a quote on mattSV's turbo wagon when he was selling it and it came up over 2 1/2 grand with 3 years NCB. could afford it but that price was enough to put me off, if they are stupid enough to pay that to insure a care then i say let then, they'll plant it up a tree and cleanse the gene pool

all well and good..

apart from one bit.. "raising the minimum age of driver" so how are the 17,18 + age supposed to get to work college ect ? because public transport fails, not every one want to ride a moped or bike not every one lives near or in range to use other forms of transport ? so those people then add to the teens that have no job or no further education Etc so on so forth

Originally Posted by barwel1992

all well and good..

apart from one bit.. "raising the minimum age of driver" so how are the 17,18 + age supposed to get to work college ect ? because public transport fails, not every one want to ride a moped or bike not every one lives near or in range to use other forms of transport ? so those people then add to the teens that have no job or no further education Etc so on so forth

Dan, thats a bolox reason mate, when i first started college and work placement, i was working in edgbaston, the other side of the city for me, 3 buses and 1 hour, 20 mins worth of travelling for me every day there and back.
I couldnt afford a bike or car back then, i coped as a lot of others did, so thats a lame excuse.
There is more money around nowadays with parents helping much more than in my early years as well.

Originally Posted by specialone

Dan, thats a bolox reason mate, when i first started college and work placement, i was working in edgbaston, the other side of the city for me, 3 buses and 1 hour, 20 mins worth of travelling for me every day there and back.
I couldnt afford a bike or car back then, i coped as a lot of others did, so thats a lame excuse.
There is more money around nowadays with parents helping much more than in my early years as well.

im talking more about the people in the sticks not in the city

case and point, mate lives in Yorkshire middle of no where, drives to Silverstone every week stoppe's in B&B hes 17 if the age was higher how is he supposed to get from his home (farm) to silverston he has no proper link to any where without relying on his parents to get him there then he would have to get from Northampton to Silverstone

Originally Posted by barwel1992

im talking more about the people in the sticks not in the city

Ah bolox to them, they can walk
All they do is become farmers anyway.

Originally Posted by specialone

Ah bolox to them, they can walk
All they do is become farmers anyway.

lol see above

grumpy old fart

ta bit