Penalty Charge Notice

Just received a nice letter from Wandsworth Council... a £120 penalty charge notice for filtering through stationary traffic at 8am on Queenstown Road.


WTF???



The letter states that the following alleged traffic contravention was committed at 7:50am:

"38L failing to comply with a sign indicating that vehicular traffic must pass to the specified side of the sign.

The alleged contravention was noted at the time by camera operator 001 who was observing real time pictures from the roadside camera at the time stated. This alleged contravention is supported by recorded evidence."



I'm obviously going to appeal, as I was on my bike filtering through a long line of stationary cars. Has anyone else had any success in appealing against these stupid fines?

From the sounds of it, you went the wrong side of a traffic island. Unlucky to get caught by a live camera operator.

PePiPoo is good for the legal stuff, but if you were the wrong side of an island then I don't think you have much defence. Sorry.

I'd ask to go and view the video evidence to see what they have caught you doing. If you have done something plainly illegal and there's video evidence to support it, you'd best just pay up.

Fine seems steep though, I'd have expected 60 quid.

Originally Posted by simesb

wrong side of an island.

sorry, but it seems to be the case, count yourself lucky its a penalty charge, it could have been 3 points if you where caught by the police

worth getting a video of yourself if you are paying the penalty

Originally Posted by Italianjob

Just received a nice letter from Wandsworth Council... a £120 penalty charge notice for filtering through stationary traffic at 8am on Queenstown Road.


WTF???



The letter states that the following alleged traffic contravention was committed at 7:50am:

"38L failing to comply with a sign indicating that vehicular traffic must pass to the specified side of the sign.

The alleged contravention was noted at the time by camera operator 001 who was observing real time pictures from the roadside camera at the time stated. This alleged contravention is supported by recorded evidence."



I'm obviously going to appeal, as I was on my bike filtering through a long line of stationary cars. Has anyone else had any success in appealing against these stupid fines?

dont quite understand what you have done here fella. have you gone round the wrong way of the traffic island which seperates the two lanes of traffic like the others have said. into the oncoming traffic?????

if you have then yes your contravening a keep left arrow.

£120 fine though........should really only be £60 and 3 points

Originally Posted by yawny

should really only be £60 and 3 points

It's the council who are issuing the penalty, not the police.

It was a traffic island in the middle of Queenstown Road, see here:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/213325


It is a £120 fine that is reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. I would have thought that rule 129 of the highway code would have applied, as the traffic was not moving:

"You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less."


It was not a dangerous manouvre as there was no oncoming traffic.

1 point = £20

love the why the council works

Originally Posted by Italianjob

It was a traffic island in the middle of Queenstown Road, see here:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/213325


It is a £120 fine that is reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. I would have thought that rule 129 of the highway code would have applied, as the traffic was not moving:

"You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less."


It was not a dangerous manouvre as there was no oncoming traffic.

That rule applies only to the crossing of a white line, they haven't fined you for that offence, they fined you for failing to comply with the sign.

Lots of folk get done for speeding when the speed they were doing was not dangerous.

Just accept that you did something cheeky and got caught.

Originally Posted by Italianjob

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/213325

you 'must' be on the correct side of the island as there is a blue arrow, it over rules anything else (as I was told by a police once)

sorry dude.