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Old 04-09-12, 09:24 PM   #1
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Default Rear brake woes.

A while back I overhauled the calipers. New fluid, new lines, new pads GG all round. Old pads were hh all round. Im finding the rear brake doesnt bite enough for my liking & im pushing down on that brake pedal a bit too much looking for it. Ive checked it for bleed issues but its tip top. The fronts perfect with gg btw. I was thinking about shoving the old hh pads back in to test it. Tips appreciated.
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Old 04-09-12, 09:46 PM   #2
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Does your caliper have two bleed nipples? The curvy one does and I forgot about it the other dy. Much better once bleed through from both.
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Old 04-09-12, 10:11 PM   #3
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I seem to recall that it deemed unsafe to have hh rear pads coupled with gg front ones. Can't quite think why off the top of my head but Google is no doubt your friend. I think the other way round is ok though.
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Old 04-09-12, 10:21 PM   #4
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Pointy has one bleed nipple on the rear caliper. Yeah I noticed just having hh on the rear was deemed unsafe but after the work I did, the front on gg is perfect if I stuck hh on it would bite like buggery tbh.
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Old 04-09-12, 11:02 PM   #5
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Default Re: Rear brake woes.

If it feels spongy then re bleed the brake.
If its more springy then have the pads bedded in and every thing free ?
If its just effort and your happy you have every thing moving as it should then maybe do the pad swop.
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Old 04-09-12, 11:45 PM   #6
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it'll take about 100-150 miles till the pads settle in.
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Old 05-09-12, 09:47 AM   #7
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Why would you want to concentrate that much on the rear brake? In my little bubble that's just so wrong for street riding.
Only good that can come out of the rear brake is trail-braking, and if you're not God the only place it should be used is on a track. The rear brake is only good for 10-15% of your total braking power.
Front brake training, training, training and some more training, until you can brake it perfectly with just the front, so when you get in a emergency/panic state your automatically/trained response will already be in your hand, in such a state anyone less than a god can only concentrate on 1 thing, and that 1 thing should be your front brake.
Just my £0.50
Not ranting or meant to come out cross/grumpy, just don't want anyone out there to come into harms way if it can be avoided with a bit off training.
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Old 05-09-12, 09:53 AM   #8
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God your grumpy.
Some people use them a lot in the rain.
I find mine good on hill starts and low speed maneuvering.
Handy in the Peaks were a fair few roads had gravel that was deep.
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Old 05-09-12, 10:08 AM   #9
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Why would you want to concentrate that much on the rear brake? In my little bubble that's just so wrong for street riding.
That is so wrong for so many reasons. A lot of the rear brake vitriol tends to be directed at track riding - "I never use rear brake" etc. Ok fair enough.

But good use of the rear brake will improve regular road riding. This is not to say it has to be used but for those who ride all the time in all conditions, knowing how to use the rear brake is essential.

So you don't use the rear brake when its wet or icy on the roads? You just jam on the front? You don't use it in traffic? Filter through slow traffic on the front brake. What about slow manouvering? A riding instructor will always focus on slow control through use of the rear brake.

Learn to use it.

Sorry I can't help with the brake pad issue btw.

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Old 05-09-12, 10:13 AM   #10
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God your grumpy.
Yes yes, better I take it out on you lot than out on the wife, sofa isn't that nice to sleep on

If some people trained to do it properly they should still be using the front brake more than the rear even on the wet stuff.
For offroad driving yes rear is ok, but hard or not deep gravel, front brakes there aswell, maybe it takes a bit of training(even easier to lock the front, but getting the feeling and a little training you're your own ABS). There are many roads that lead to Rome, but the most direct and the techinical correct one is front brakes.

Raise your hand if you've ever trained braking after you passed the licence, and not just on trackdays or what not, I mean really trained just braking?
If your not raising your hand, go look in a mirror and say "This is the person that's responsible for my safety"


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