Muslim who grooms and rapes spared jail.

I have always understood that ignorance of the law was no excuse.This opens the doors for wild spread abuse using case stated as a defence.
Another judge who does not live in the real world.

EDIT : See this link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-girl-13.html

[mattSV]

Was the fact that he was a Muslim relevant?

[timwilky]

What case is this DT, link please.

As for the alleged perpetrators religion, this hardly matters apart from the fact that there does seem to be a number of cases of Asian men operating in paedophile rings grooming and then abusing vulnerable young girls lately. I am not saying there is a higher proportion of Asian pervs to home grown ones. Just a number of higher profile cases, Rochdale and Rochdale and Oxford. Then we have Cyril Smith who liked his boys in....Rochdale.


And of course the most prolific of paedophiles is of course our own grown Sir Jimmy.

But back to DT's original pot and it does not take a lot of googling to find

Originally Posted by aledged by the children's commissioner

A 2012 report by the Deputy children's commissioner said that 33% of child sex abuse was committed by Asians in Britain, where Asians are 7% of the population, but concluded that it was "irresponsible" to dwell on the data

[Sid Squid]

Yes, his being a Moslem is relevant, as a pivotal part of his defence was that women are of lesser value in his faith/culture.

Mac; I too am somewhat surprised at the apparent leniency of the sentence. Ignorance of the law isn't a defence, and the suggestion that having a different culture and/or faith meaning the law will apply in a different manner is deeply worrying.

[MisterTommyH]

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

...and the suggestion that having a different culture and/or faith meaning the law will apply in a different manner is deeply worrying.

That is indeed worrying. I am very liberal when it comes to issues of immigration and race, however this is paving the way for it to be acceptable to practice Sharia law in segregated communities. And you can bet that wouldn't be applied in a different manner to those from a different culture/faith.

What is really sad is the religions preach about love and all that crap and the Asians are probably most religious race on this planet, so what's happened?


This has been happening in brum too btw.

[Bri w]

tbh, I don't believe that he was ignorant of the law in this country - hell's teeth, the media haven't exactly been quiet on this sort of thing down the years. And I find it very hard to believe that a father in a Muslim country would allow his daughter to become the plaything of a group like this.

Its about time the judiciary in this country grew some proper ones.

[timwilky]

more on google finds what I think this thread is about

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-girl-13.html


So I agree with the sentiment, since when has ignorance of the law been a defence. but his religion was his defence

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by MisterTommyH

That is indeed worrying. I am very liberal when it comes to issues of immigration and race, however this is paving the way for it to be acceptable to practice Sharia law in segregated communities. And you can bet that wouldn't be applied in a different manner to those from a different culture/faith.

Me too.
There is either more to this than what is being reported,or the whole thing will surely be referred to the high court for a new sentence?

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by MisterTommyH

That is indeed worrying. I am very liberal when it comes to issues of immigration and race, however this is paving the way for it to be acceptable to practice Sharia law in segregated communities. And you can bet that wouldn't be applied in a different manner to those from a different culture/faith.

We do not know the poor girls religion, but are you saying she if a muslim then she would have found it acceptable to have sex at 13 because he was a muslim man.

I know that girls do have sex at 13, and think it acceptable. But as a society we have a duty to protect our children from both themselves and predators that pry on their immaturity and naivety.