General Election Result

[fizzwheel]

Now I dont normally go in for this sort of thing, but I am very puzzled today about something...

Based on the sheer amount of bitching and complaining on my facebook feed. If I believed what I am seeing then I would conclude that nobody voted conservative at all, which is a completely different point of view to the actual declared Election result.

I've seen posts calling for Electoral reform and that we must have PR now. Yet when we had that referendum in 2011 nobody seemed to vote for it.

PR by some people is seem as some kind of Golden Calf, yet I found an article on a website that even if we had PR, we would still have had a Conservative win, albeit with a reduced number of seats and probably not enough to form a majority government.

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...m--gJenQmaW2gW

The Scotts when they had their referundum a while back decided they wanted to stay as part of the UK, yet now here we are where there is a massive swing to towards the SNP.

I think there is a reason why I am not into politics...

Discuss...

I'm sick to death of young people having full on rants about the torys getting back in for another term yet most of them hadn't even left school when they got in 5 years ago and certainly had nothing impact them from the last labour term.

I'm a Tory voter and bloody proud of it.

[andrewsmith]

Fizz you wanting to lock a thread?
Popcorn at the ready.

I'll start, the SNP in Scotland shows the disillusionment with the main parties. I think they were upset with Labour they pretty much offended everyone in minutes

[fizzwheel]

Its not young people on my facebook feed ranting, its my mates who are my age...

I get why the Scots voted why they did, but why did they just vote yes in the referdum about leaving the UK and have done with it then. I guess the labour response polarised people to vote SNP this time ?

Also I think alot of people voted tactically, where they voted Conservative rather than labour / lib dem as they didnt want another coalition government with Con / Lib Dem again, or didnt want a Labour / SNP Coalition...

[andrewsmith]

Hahaha

They did hence why the strongholds all went

5 years ago I said anyone who liked the government would move from lib dem to conservative and anyone who didn't would move from lib dem to labour, or as it turned out UKIP.

Lib dems also lost the protest vote when they became part of the government.

Democracy meant conservatives won and there's been a fair bit of whinging, apparently they're going to dismantle the NHS, as if there hadn't been conservative governments since it was founded or something.

[fizzwheel]

Now the NHS

I read the party policies / manifesto link on the BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/manifesto-guide

Conservative Manifesto says = £8bn increase in spending in NHS
Labour Manifesto says = £2.5bn increase in spending

OK so the Conservatives dont say where this money is coming from, but I keep reading about how the conservative government will wreck the NHS and that Labour would have been better / invested more money in it.

Or am I reading that wrong ?

[Bibio]

i think one of the man reasons the SNP got so many votes is that there was no propaganda and scaremongering blasted at them from every angle unlike the referendum.

the Tories got the votes in England as they were the only 'safe' bet due to the talk of a coalition between the SNP and Labour. the last thing that the English want is the Scots dictating to them. now what we have is a big fek off huge divide and an even more prominent border.

i'm not trying to be funny but the English, Welsh, Irish and Scots are all very very proud people with a huge sense of nationalism on all sides and what ever one does always leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of the other. it really is a shame as i personally love the UK and all the diversity of the people within it but being a Scot i'm always going to side with my fellow kinsman just like the Englishmen, Welshmen and Irishmen. we are all as bad as each other so no wonder there is a rift developing between us.

times are hard and its only going to get harder and i think each of us are looking for the best deal.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I get why the Scots voted why they did, but why did they just vote yes in the referdum about leaving the UK and have done with it then. I guess the labour response polarised people to vote SNP this time?

I think the Scots wanted to stay part of the UK mainly because they knew they would be financially better off, they have now voted for the SNP in vast numbers to get a voice in Westminster, Labour no longer give them a voice so they are toast this also applies to the "working class" of this country. I cant say I am sad to see the back of Miliband, Balls or the Labour party.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by nutzboutbikes

I think the Scots wanted to stay part of the UK mainly because they knew they would be financially better off, they have now voted for the SNP in vast numbers to get a voice in Westminster, Labour no longer give them a voice so they are toast this also applies to the "working class" of this country. I cant say I am sad to the back of Miliband, Balls or the Labour party.

actually no. it was proven that the Scots would stay and or be slightly better off being independent. what the deciding factor was all the propaganda about the banks leaving and people loosing their jobs due to retailers saying that they would leave etc.etc. one of the biggest was the oil revenue being at a slump price but surprise surprise the price of oil is to rocket in the next year.

but your right in that the Scots are voting SNP to have a bigger voice in Westminster (not that it will help).