Newbie question (I know they are annoying) sorry - SV650.org

13-02-06, 01:42 AM

Hello all,

I am new to this forum.

So here's the question, I am thinking of getting a motorcyle and I cant decide what to get, I have a friend who has ridden a few years and he said I should either get a SV650 or a YZF 600R. He also said for my size and weight 5'9, 230lbs either bike would be good, but since he is the only rider I know and he hasnt been riding for a long time I figure I should ask a community that has riders with more exp.

Any info would help alot.

Thanks all

13-02-06, 02:58 AM

An R6 is an awful lot of bike for someone just learning, though I suppose a restrictor will take care of some of that depending on where you live...

I spoke with a lot of people about different types of bikes and settled on the SV, and I don't regret it one bit. Not only is it a great beginner bike but it will keep you happy as you mature as a rider.

As much as I love winter I can't wait until blizzard season is over!

rictus01 · 13-02-06, 03:28 AM

A little more info might help?

Any experience?
Got a license ?
Ridden before ?
Car license or scooter?
Born again ?

What will you use the bike for?
Commuting ?
Weekend fun ?
Touring holidays ?

What sort of budget have you got ?
Looking at new or secondhand ?
Got any kit yet ?

that sort of thing.

Cheers Mark.

13-02-06, 03:39 AM

I have ridden dirt bikes.
No license, but I am gonna take the riding course they offer and get my license that way first before I buy a bike.
Just dirt bikes a few times and my friends bike a few times, I would say am a complete newb, but still very much a beginner.
HAHA born again, what a bunch of crap.
I would use the bike for fun, nice weather, riding around.
Budget isnt to big a factor.
And if its better to start off with a new bike I would do that, cos I know its prolly different for bikes, but like a car, I would prefer to get a new one so I know what the bike has gone thru and such.
No kits till I am comfortable and know what I am doing.

Hope that helps

Thanks again guys and gals.

Oh and not an R6, that I know is to much bike for a beginner, but the YZF 600R.

13-02-06, 04:05 AM

Ah sorry my bad, its late and I'm strangely drawn to the new R6 :wink:

If budget isn't a concern then a new bike does save the mystery of what she's been through, on the other hand they do most of their devaluing in the first couple years.

People do tend to drop their bike at least once during the first few months, but the amount of dirtbike experience you have will factor in. Scratches and dings hurt less on a used bike than a new one.

My k3 with 2800 miles was as shiny as when it got delivered to the dealer and was around 60% of the original sticker price when I got it in july.

rictus01 · 13-02-06, 04:18 AM

OK, given your starting point, you need to develope road sense (for a bike) and need something with a friendly power delivery, I'd give the Thudercat a miss for now, nice bike but still a little much at this stage (don't know if you can still get them new even).

Then we're looking at riding positon and bike style, the most comfortable position is upright with standard handlebars. Style well faired or naked ?

Now some bikes
starting from the bottom
Suzuki GS 500
Honda CB 500
Kawsaki ER5
all the above come with or without fairings (these are the types of bike you'll do a DAS course on), not the most exciting in the world, but do the job.

Just about any of the 600 roadsters would do,(this would be my recomendation)

Suzuki Bandit 600 / 650
Honda Hornet 600
Yamaha Fazer 6
or the new ER6 (STUNNING faired).
and of course the SV / SVS

Above that (in performance, that is) comes the supersport 600s.
(I wouldn't go here until you've got a bit of mileage under your belt)
in order of ease of living with for a novice.

Kawasaki ZX6 (old style, think they sell it now as the ZZR)
Daytona 600/650 (lots of room)
Honda CBR600F (practical, well in this class anyway)
then it's a matter of taste as to the new ZX636/R6/GSXR600 or CBR600RR.

I wouldn't look at anything bigger for the moment, it's just way to easy to get in trouble with, and probably wouldn't look at the super sport 600's either.

Insurance will also be high for you so the 600 roadster class is going to be more affordable.

before you buy you need to make sure it's the riding position you can live with, so don't dismiss nakeds out of hand, as a minimum get yourself down to a dealer and at least sit on all of them (probably won't get a test ride but you can always ask

).

you don't say where you're from? check out the rest of the board I'm sure theirs a local meet near you, pop down and get some firsthand advice.

that should be enough to get you started.

Cheers Mark.

13-02-06, 09:04 AM

I got the sv to gain experience on and develope my riding techniques. Has all the power i need for now and the bike has a host of after market parts for it so you can make it your own. Cost was also an issue and if money had been no object as in your case i would most likely have got a ninja but maybe that would have been too much bike for a newbie now i think of it.
Do what your heart and head tell you but just remember that like a really fast car a really fast bike will tempt you to push it more

13-02-06, 09:08 AM

Good advice from Rictus again. You would be wise to follow it.

13-02-06, 09:14 AM

Does any one else not get the impression he's a friend from over the sea so the DAS comments and such won't count.

It might be worth checking out svrider.com for some info from those guys.

13-02-06, 12:24 PM

I got an ER5 for £825 as my first large bike after riding mopeds and dirt bikes. I dropped it a few times while gaining experience which didn't bother me too much cos it was old anyway. After 2 years I now have a much newer sv650 which I love and so far haven't dropped! I'd recommend that kind of route. Although it does sound like you have a mysteriously large amount of money to spend too, anyone else get that impression??

13-02-06, 01:42 AM	#1
Pappaling Guest Posts: n/a	Newbie question (I know they are annoying) sorry Hello all, I am new to this forum. So here's the question, I am thinking of getting a motorcyle and I cant decide what to get, I have a friend who has ridden a few years and he said I should either get a SV650 or a YZF 600R. He also said for my size and weight 5'9, 230lbs either bike would be good, but since he is the only rider I know and he hasnt been riding for a long time I figure I should ask a community that has riders with more exp. Any info would help alot. Thanks all

13-02-06, 03:28 AM	#3
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	A little more info might help? Any experience? Got a license ? Ridden before ? Car license or scooter? Born again ? What will you use the bike for? Commuting ? Weekend fun ? Touring holidays ? What sort of budget have you got ? Looking at new or secondhand ? Got any kit yet ? that sort of thing. Cheers Mark. __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!

13-02-06, 04:18 AM	#6
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	OK, given your starting point, you need to develope road sense (for a bike) and need something with a friendly power delivery, I'd give the Thudercat a miss for now, nice bike but still a little much at this stage (don't know if you can still get them new even). Then we're looking at riding positon and bike style, the most comfortable position is upright with standard handlebars. Style well faired or naked ? Now some bikes starting from the bottom Suzuki GS 500 Honda CB 500 Kawsaki ER5 all the above come with or without fairings (these are the types of bike you'll do a DAS course on), not the most exciting in the world, but do the job. Just about any of the 600 roadsters would do,(this would be my recomendation) Suzuki Bandit 600 / 650 Honda Hornet 600 Yamaha Fazer 6 or the new ER6 (STUNNING faired). and of course the SV / SVS Above that (in performance, that is) comes the supersport 600s. (I wouldn't go here until you've got a bit of mileage under your belt) in order of ease of living with for a novice. Kawasaki ZX6 (old style, think they sell it now as the ZZR) Daytona 600/650 (lots of room) Honda CBR600F (practical, well in this class anyway) then it's a matter of taste as to the new ZX636/R6/GSXR600 or CBR600RR. I wouldn't look at anything bigger for the moment, it's just way to easy to get in trouble with, and probably wouldn't look at the super sport 600's either. Insurance will also be high for you so the 600 roadster class is going to be more affordable. before you buy you need to make sure it's the riding position you can live with, so don't dismiss nakeds out of hand, as a minimum get yourself down to a dealer and at least sit on all of them (probably won't get a test ride but you can always ask ). you don't say where you're from? check out the rest of the board I'm sure theirs a local meet near you, pop down and get some firsthand advice. that should be enough to get you started. Cheers Mark. __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!

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13-02-06, 02:58 AM	#2
halfway Guest Posts: n/a	An R6 is an awful lot of bike for someone just learning, though I suppose a restrictor will take care of some of that depending on where you live... I spoke with a lot of people about different types of bikes and settled on the SV, and I don't regret it one bit. Not only is it a great beginner bike but it will keep you happy as you mature as a rider. As much as I love winter I can't wait until blizzard season is over!

13-02-06, 03:39 AM	#4
Pappaling Guest Posts: n/a	I have ridden dirt bikes. No license, but I am gonna take the riding course they offer and get my license that way first before I buy a bike. Just dirt bikes a few times and my friends bike a few times, I would say am a complete newb, but still very much a beginner. HAHA born again, what a bunch of crap. I would use the bike for fun, nice weather, riding around. Budget isnt to big a factor. And if its better to start off with a new bike I would do that, cos I know its prolly different for bikes, but like a car, I would prefer to get a new one so I know what the bike has gone thru and such. No kits till I am comfortable and know what I am doing. Hope that helps Thanks again guys and gals. Oh and not an R6, that I know is to much bike for a beginner, but the YZF 600R.

13-02-06, 04:05 AM	#5
halfway Guest Posts: n/a	Ah sorry my bad, its late and I'm strangely drawn to the new R6 :wink: If budget isn't a concern then a new bike does save the mystery of what she's been through, on the other hand they do most of their devaluing in the first couple years. People do tend to drop their bike at least once during the first few months, but the amount of dirtbike experience you have will factor in. Scratches and dings hurt less on a used bike than a new one. My k3 with 2800 miles was as shiny as when it got delivered to the dealer and was around 60% of the original sticker price when I got it in july.

13-02-06, 09:04 AM	#7
TC3 Guest Posts: n/a	I got the sv to gain experience on and develope my riding techniques. Has all the power i need for now and the bike has a host of after market parts for it so you can make it your own. Cost was also an issue and if money had been no object as in your case i would most likely have got a ninja but maybe that would have been too much bike for a newbie now i think of it. Do what your heart and head tell you but just remember that like a really fast car a really fast bike will tempt you to push it more

13-02-06, 09:08 AM	#8
Mogs Guest Posts: n/a	Good advice from Rictus again. You would be wise to follow it.

13-02-06, 09:14 AM	#9
diamond Guest Posts: n/a	Does any one else not get the impression he's a friend from over the sea so the DAS comments and such won't count. It might be worth checking out svrider.com for some info from those guys.

13-02-06, 12:24 PM	#10
Warthog Guest Posts: n/a	I got an ER5 for £825 as my first large bike after riding mopeds and dirt bikes. I dropped it a few times while gaining experience which didn't bother me too much cos it was old anyway. After 2 years I now have a much newer sv650 which I love and so far haven't dropped! I'd recommend that kind of route. Although it does sound like you have a mysteriously large amount of money to spend too, anyone else get that impression??