Why oh why!! - SV650.org

25-04-06, 06:12 PM

Just come back from a short run and the bike was 'missing' a bit on tick-over so I thought I'd whip the carbs off and clean the pilot jets but guess what happened....... yep, got all the screws out apart from one that snapped!!

Why do they use monkey-metal. Haven't we all had enough of this??

25-04-06, 08:35 PM

That sux!!

Isn’t it always the way though, at least one bolt always gives you trouble, normally the last?!!?!?

Probably one of my best investments ever was an ‘impact driver’ one of these beauties has saved me from rounded/sheered bolts on many an occasion, I am sure of it!!!

northwind · 25-04-06, 08:58 PM

They're not usually of the shear-off variety of S*** Bolts, usually they're of the disintegrating head, won't move for anything short of the wrath of god type. Which scrwe is it that broke? A float bowl cover?

25-04-06, 09:05 PM

Yep the float bowl screw. The head did go first but I used my trusty dremmel to cut a new head.

Gonna use some copper grease on assembly.

northwind · 25-04-06, 09:33 PM

Also, fit some decent screws... Is it M5x12mm? 8 for the fitting of. Allen heads instead of the ridiculous phillips heads, that's half the problem- phillips head in soft metal, on an application that'll rarely be touched...

25-04-06, 11:19 PM

Havent really worked on any other bikes, is this just a suzuki thing or do all manufacuters have bolts made of cheese?

My mitsubishi colt suffered from a similar problem, a hour under the car drilling tiny holes in the stub is not my idea of fun.

northwind · 25-04-06, 11:53 PM

Dunno, the only other make I've worked on were all cheapo Yams, which are all absolutely stinking... Worse than the SV, by a fair bit.

26-04-06, 01:11 AM

http://www.huskey.com/s_autoseize.html

Halfway down is aluminum antiseize compound.

Some say copper antizeize, being higher on the "make the other material rust" chart than aluminum, is bad idea on aluminum assemblies. I think itss kind of true, but never saw an actual problem with it.

Cheap way to go safe is get graphite antizeize, or just regular grease.

Sid Squid · 26-04-06, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomjones2

Havent really worked on any other bikes, is this just a suzuki thing or do all manufacuters have bolts made of cheese?

Pretty much, yes.

26-04-06, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogzi

yep, got all the screws out apart from one that snapped!!

Gutted for you mate - been there, done that

25-04-06, 06:12 PM	#1
Hogzi Guest Posts: n/a	Why oh why!! Just come back from a short run and the bike was 'missing' a bit on tick-over so I thought I'd whip the carbs off and clean the pilot jets but guess what happened....... yep, got all the screws out apart from one that snapped!! Why do they use monkey-metal. Haven't we all had enough of this??

25-04-06, 08:58 PM	#3
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	They're not usually of the shear-off variety of S*** Bolts, usually they're of the disintegrating head, won't move for anything short of the wrath of god type. Which scrwe is it that broke? A float bowl cover? __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

25-04-06, 09:05 PM	#4
Hogzi Guest Posts: n/a	Why oh why!! Yep the float bowl screw. The head did go first but I used my trusty dremmel to cut a new head. Gonna use some copper grease on assembly.

25-04-06, 09:33 PM	#5
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Also, fit some decent screws... Is it M5x12mm? 8 for the fitting of. Allen heads instead of the ridiculous phillips heads, that's half the problem- phillips head in soft metal, on an application that'll rarely be touched... __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

25-04-06, 11:53 PM	#7
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Dunno, the only other make I've worked on were all cheapo Yams, which are all absolutely stinking... Worse than the SV, by a fair bit. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

25-04-06, 08:35 PM	#2
Blue_SV650S Guest Posts: n/a	That sux!! Isn’t it always the way though, at least one bolt always gives you trouble, normally the last?!!?!? Probably one of my best investments ever was an ‘impact driver’ one of these beauties has saved me from rounded/sheered bolts on many an occasion, I am sure of it!!!

25-04-06, 11:19 PM	#6
tomjones2 Guest Posts: n/a	Havent really worked on any other bikes, is this just a suzuki thing or do all manufacuters have bolts made of cheese? My mitsubishi colt suffered from a similar problem, a hour under the car drilling tiny holes in the stub is not my idea of fun.

26-04-06, 01:11 AM	#8
johnny ro Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.huskey.com/s_autoseize.html Halfway down is aluminum antiseize compound. Some say copper antizeize, being higher on the "make the other material rust" chart than aluminum, is bad idea on aluminum assemblies. I think itss kind of true, but never saw an actual problem with it. Cheap way to go safe is get graphite antizeize, or just regular grease.