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timwilky · 24-05-06, 07:19 AM

My brother has just phone, Arkwright (as in open all hours) otherwise know as mien host of the Duke of York has packed up his bags and left. Turns out he has had a disagreement with the brewery regarding a proposed increase in his tenancy.

What ever am I to do. It took us a month to educate the previous landlord that when the plod knock on the door at 1 in the morning it is because they are thirsty.

We tend to take a dim view of application of licensing law round these parts. But new landlords always seem to think they are supposed to get all bolshy round midnight.

Once trained, they seem to realise their responsibilities towards the loyal customer and have the bacon/egg butties prepared for about 7:30 to soak up the beer for the stagger home to bed

24-05-06, 07:53 AM

You'll have to train another landlord.

24-05-06, 07:55 AM

What licesnsing laws? Didnt they all change about 6 months ago to all night drinking?

If the new landlord still needs to apply for the all night license, just tell him to do so.

Sorted.

timwilky · 24-05-06, 08:02 AM

Lyn

The thing is that if a place was known to have an all night licence then all and sundry would turn up, they would need to employ door men and the place would change.

If you simply want a quiet(ish) drink. no problems if you forgot your wallet/ran out of cash etc. Then it is still a village boozer where people are known and their honesty/integrity not questioned.

All night licences are for city/town centre pubs that can afford to hike up prices to pay for all the extras that go with it. We just want to continue paying £1.90 a pint and keep drinking until time to do the milking etc.

Supervox · 24-05-06, 08:54 PM

Perhaps Tim it might be an idea if you saw things from the licensee's point of view ?

From my time in the trade may I offer the following ? :-

'After hours' (as Lyn has said not quite the same now as it used to be) is a privilege that is granted at the discretion of the Landlord - it is NOT the God-given right of any person whether he/she considers himself to be regular of the establishment or not !!

In the pubs I ran NO-ONE assumed that just because I decided that to have a late night that they could automatically stay - it was by MY invitation only. Anyone who blatantly asked or tried to manoeuvre the conversation around to 'afters' definitely wouldn't be invited !!

It also takes time for a landlord to get to know his patrons & the various cliques / relationships / hierarchies that exist within any 'community'.

Anyway, best of luck with your intended 'training plan' - hope it works for you. Just be glad I never ran your local !!

24-05-06, 09:29 PM

Why don't you apply to be the landlord?

You can have as many late nights you want, but don't get caught drinking the stock and don't forget the early morning deliveries.

24-05-06, 07:19 AM	#1
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Damm, someone is conspiring against me My brother has just phone, Arkwright (as in open all hours) otherwise know as mien host of the Duke of York has packed up his bags and left. Turns out he has had a disagreement with the brewery regarding a proposed increase in his tenancy. What ever am I to do. It took us a month to educate the previous landlord that when the plod knock on the door at 1 in the morning it is because they are thirsty. We tend to take a dim view of application of licensing law round these parts. But new landlords always seem to think they are supposed to get all bolshy round midnight. Once trained, they seem to realise their responsibilities towards the loyal customer and have the bacon/egg butties prepared for about 7:30 to soak up the beer for the stagger home to bed __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

24-05-06, 08:02 AM	#4
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Lyn The thing is that if a place was known to have an all night licence then all and sundry would turn up, they would need to employ door men and the place would change. If you simply want a quiet(ish) drink. no problems if you forgot your wallet/ran out of cash etc. Then it is still a village boozer where people are known and their honesty/integrity not questioned. All night licences are for city/town centre pubs that can afford to hike up prices to pay for all the extras that go with it. We just want to continue paying £1.90 a pint and keep drinking until time to do the milking etc. __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

24-05-06, 08:54 PM	#5
Supervox No more Mr Nice Guy Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saaafffend, innit !! Posts: 1,365	Perhaps Tim it might be an idea if you saw things from the licensee's point of view ? From my time in the trade may I offer the following ? :- 'After hours' (as Lyn has said not quite the same now as it used to be) is a privilege that is granted at the discretion of the Landlord - it is NOT the God-given right of any person whether he/she considers himself to be regular of the establishment or not !! In the pubs I ran NO-ONE assumed that just because I decided that to have a late night that they could automatically stay - it was by MY invitation only. Anyone who blatantly asked or tried to manoeuvre the conversation around to 'afters' definitely wouldn't be invited !! It also takes time for a landlord to get to know his patrons & the various cliques / relationships / hierarchies that exist within any 'community'. Anyway, best of luck with your intended 'training plan' - hope it works for you. Just be glad I never ran your local !! __________________ Never argue with an idiot - he'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience

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24-05-06, 07:53 AM	#2
Moo Guest Posts: n/a	You'll have to train another landlord.

24-05-06, 07:55 AM	#3
lynw Guest Posts: n/a	What licesnsing laws? Didnt they all change about 6 months ago to all night drinking? If the new landlord still needs to apply for the all night license, just tell him to do so. Sorted.

24-05-06, 09:29 PM	#6
LH-SV650 Guest Posts: n/a	Why don't you apply to be the landlord? You can have as many late nights you want, but don't get caught drinking the stock and don't forget the early morning deliveries.