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Old 16-11-06, 02:18 PM   #1
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Default Can clouds e dispersed?

at the end of the article it suggests the use of anti-aircraft guns, small planes and rockets to disperse the cloud. is that right?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/6153382.stm
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Old 16-11-06, 02:22 PM   #2
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No. It's just lies.
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Old 16-11-06, 02:26 PM   #3
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Would they evaporate if one were to point a giant (or any other sized) hairdryer at 'em?
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Old 16-11-06, 02:27 PM   #4
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hmmm. I suppose if you detonated a container of "heavy water", the resultant vaporisation could result in normal water, and the cloud falling out of the sky.

Normal shells would have a dispersive effect, but they'd only blow the could apart & higher, which would mean it was only a matter of time before it came back, and more grey the next time.

A plane will chew up the clouds pretty easily, so long as it's jet propelled, but that'll prove expensive to say the least.

Sorry, just proving I'm a geek still
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Old 16-11-06, 02:33 PM   #5
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Er... The headline at that link...

Mice star as Olympic food tasters

White mice are to take part in the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing - their task to protect international athletes from food poisoning.



What's all that about clouds then?
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Old 16-11-06, 02:50 PM   #6
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hmmm. I suppose if you detonated a container of "heavy water", the resultant vaporisation could result in normal water, and the cloud falling out of the sky.

Normal shells would have a dispersive effect, but they'd only blow the could apart & higher, which would mean it was only a matter of time before it came back, and more grey the next time.

A plane will chew up the clouds pretty easily, so long as it's jet propelled, but that'll prove expensive to say the least.

Sorry, just proving I'm a geek still
Your being sarcastic, right?
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Old 16-11-06, 02:58 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Baph
hmmm. I suppose if you detonated a container of "heavy water", the resultant vaporisation could result in normal water, and the cloud falling out of the sky.

Normal shells would have a dispersive effect, but they'd only blow the could apart & higher, which would mean it was only a matter of time before it came back, and more grey the next time.

A plane will chew up the clouds pretty easily, so long as it's jet propelled, but that'll prove expensive to say the least.

Sorry, just proving I'm a geek still
Your being sarcastic, right?
Not at all...

Heavy water is normal water with one hydrogen atom removed from each molecule. Coulds are very "diluted" water. Whilst they are still 2 hydrogen to every oxygen atom, the bonds are weaker (hence why they float upwards and cool, which condenses it, and strengthens bonds). Add more hydrogen and oxygen to concentrate the mix, the whole lot falls back to earth.

A conventional explosion would heat the cloud more, it dilutes more, so rises and takes longer to form a cloud. It would also cool faster, and so make a "stronger" cloud later, which would be darker. A jet engine disperses just the same way, but in a more linear way.

P.S. Cheers to Filipe for spotting the deliberate mistake
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Old 16-11-06, 03:07 PM   #8
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P.S. Cheers to Filipe for spotting the deliberate mistake
Never mind me, I'm just peeing on somebody else's christmas tree...
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Old 16-11-06, 03:11 PM   #9
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I've learned an important lesson today.


Read the WHOLE message BEFORE clicking on any links.

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Old 16-11-06, 03:13 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Baph
hmmm. I suppose if you detonated a container of "heavy water", the resultant vaporisation could result in normal water, and the cloud falling out of the sky.

Normal shells would have a dispersive effect, but they'd only blow the could apart & higher, which would mean it was only a matter of time before it came back, and more grey the next time.

A plane will chew up the clouds pretty easily, so long as it's jet propelled, but that'll prove expensive to say the least.

Sorry, just proving I'm a geek still
Your being sarcastic, right?
Not at all...

Heavy water is normal water with one hydrogen atom removed from each molecule. Coulds are very "diluted" water. Whilst they are still 2 hydrogen to every oxygen atom, the bonds are weaker (hence why they float upwards and cool, which condenses it, and strengthens bonds). Add more hydrogen and oxygen to concentrate the mix, the whole lot falls back to earth.

A conventional explosion would heat the cloud more, it dilutes more, so rises and takes longer to form a cloud. It would also cool faster, and so make a "stronger" cloud later, which would be darker. A jet engine disperses just the same way, but in a more linear way.

P.S. Cheers to Filipe for spotting the deliberate mistake
*bites lip*
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