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Old 07-12-10, 02:51 PM   #1
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Hi all my bike cut out as it hit the limiter in second (i had just done a 30 mile commute and was nearly home bike was warm etc). Hasnt started since. Compresion is good, turns over fine. Fuel pump is not making noise i think a fuse has gone? I had no tools and had a look under rear seat and couldnt see fuses. Are they under the main seat? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-12-10, 02:59 PM   #2
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Post up what bike you are talking about,then start with the simple stuff.
Favorite for cutting out while going along is sidestand cut out switch.Check that first.Also make sure you have fuel and you didnt nudge the kill switch.
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Old 07-12-10, 04:10 PM   #3
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sorry its a k4 sv650s. Dont beleive its sidestand switch as i was riding when it cut out and specifically cut out when it hit the limiter.
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Old 07-12-10, 04:19 PM   #4
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still check the side stand switch, they're known for it at this time of year all the road crud clogs it all up. Mines been wired around to avoid such incidents happening again.
Was there any reason for you bouncing it off the limiter in 2nd gear?
Reg/Rec could have caused it to cut out but you'd be getting f'all from it now however if when you turn on the ignition everything is normal except your FI system isnt priming then I'd look into that fuse.
Not sure where the FI fuse is, but your mains fuse is under the rider seat, right hand side of the bike you may be possible to get to if you pop off the infill panel (although not sure off top of my head) may require you to take off the rider seat so you can see the battery its defo visible then.
The other fuse housing will be under near the CDI, so depending on how neat your wiring is its either under the pillion seat or stuffed in next to your battery.

Also have you noticed any error codes on the display, is the FI indicator light going off?
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Old 07-12-10, 04:38 PM   #5
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FI light is on constant but i thought this was always the case until started :s prety sure the chec sign is up (ive walked home for tools now) so i think this means stand switch/ cut out switch or in gear with stand down. As for hitting the limiter i enjoy taking it through the revs in second once a week or so, like to clear her out lol.
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Old 07-12-10, 04:45 PM   #6
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fair enough, wouldnt advise it its a limiter for a reason.

FI light should be on but if it wasnt then you've got a problem - (was my trail of thought)
Yeah make sure its not still in gear, that would be a facepalm moment.

Do you know how to get the bike into dealer mode so you can find the error code?
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Old 07-12-10, 09:45 PM   #7
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fair enough, wouldnt advise it its a limiter for a reason.

Of course it's a limiter for a reason, it limits RPM below destructive levels. And OP didn't say he was bouncing it off the limiter, just that he hit it.
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Old 07-12-10, 10:07 PM   #8
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He also said he did it from time to time, give me any context where taking something its limit on regular occasions is ever a good thing?
No matter what the application if u frequently stress something you weaken it, weaken it enough an you'll break it. Just cos the engine is limited what makes u think the other mechanical parts are built to the engines full capabilities rather than the limiters? There's a lot more to a modern bike than pistons and oil, engine will be fine as the limiter protects it but something else on the other hand seems to have been less fortunate, he said it himself... It happened when it hit the limiter.
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Old 07-12-10, 10:14 PM   #9
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Yep the fuses are under the seat, think you need just a 4mm and a 6mm allen key to whip it off (the infill plastic panels either side first). Check the fuses, think the one marked ignition will be worth double checking maybe even swap with a spare to be sure.
And as said check the simple things, killswitch , sidestand switch etc.

All dash and other lights/electrics working as normal?
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He also said he did it from time to time, give me any context where taking something its limit on regular occasions is ever a good thing?
No matter what the application if u frequently stress something you weaken it, weaken it enough an you'll break it. Just cos the engine is limited what makes u think the other mechanical parts are built to the engines full capabilities rather than the limiters? There's a lot more to a modern bike than pistons and oil, engine will be fine as the limiter protects it but something else on the other hand seems to have been less fortunate, he said it himself... It happened when it hit the limiter.
As far as I'm aware the hammering limiter wouldn't cause a starting fault, think it can damage the valves or something. But I've got to admit to using it a fair bit on lower (than the sv) powered bikes without issue *touch wood*
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As far as I'm aware the hammering limiter wouldn't cause a starting fault, think it can damage the valves or something. But I've got to admit to using it a fair bit on lower (than the sv) powered bikes without issue *touch wood*
lol, we know your history dave using the limiter as a warning to old ladies that they've upset you with their driving style.
Problem wasnt a starting fault, it cut off whilst in use its only after the incident that its not starting.

Pretty sure if I challenged anyone to; stand next to thier bike while I stood next to mine holding my bike at 6000rpm and them bouncing thiers off the limiter to see who's went pop first, they'd tell me to get F***ed! Fair enough thats exagerating the terms but it explains the thinking behind my reasoning.
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