Drug Re-Classification

This will be interesting if it changes - seems to be good they are putting some thought into classifying drugs based on harm and not on penalty received

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5230006.stm

Extract on the re-classification>>
There are three class A drugs in the top five of the system, as well as one Class B and alcohol.

Tobacco is listed as the ninth most harmful drug and cannabis, a class C drug, comes in at number 11.

Perhaps most surprising is the presence of two Class A drugs - ecstasy and LSD - in the bottom six.

This places them well below tobacco and alcohol and a number of class B and C drugs.

Nice to see alcohol and tobacco recognised in this. And a more scientific approach taken.

Though I think it could send out the wrong message by saying drugs, which can still have harmful effects, are ok because theyre not as harmful as other drugs.

I also am wondering about who they tested to get these results - if it was normal drinkers Im not quite sure that alcohol would be where it is on the table. If they only tested alcoholics then yes its about right, but that doesnt apply to everyone - particularly when another body is recommending a glass of red wine a day to promote health.

Something official that drinking is more harmfull the pot.....

Yet we're back on the nice taxable drug (drink and fags) issue again arn't we

Complications and effects with every drug you ever take. (beer, wine, pot, heroin, E's etc).


So, "theoretically", say if I were to smoke say 3 joints per day, does that mean im at less of a risk than if i were to drink 5 pints of beer per day? (not saying EITHER are right, just saying)... Yet drinkings legal, and pot isn't?

For a bike riding point of view all drugs have devastating effects.
I can't ride my bike after I smoke a joint, my spatial perception is completely fecked.
After a single beer I'm waaay too confidant for my own survival.
On special K however I fall asleep at the first set of lights and somebody else picks my bike up and rides away.

Therefore all drugs are bad...

Originally Posted by Razor

On special K however I fall asleep.............

Try Grape Nuts or Frosties - much better



I'm I the only one who misses Sooty Stars?

[timwilky]

You have to question the harm element. There have been a few examples of sudden death to Ecstasy users whereas sudden death resulting from a one off pint or cigarette is probably extremely rare.

Also the increasing evidence of paranoia resulting from cannabis use is worrying, the problem being that mental health problems are difficult to detect in the early stages etc. and then to associate it with a cause must be problematic.

Personally I would like to see personal use of all drugs decrimalised to the extent that the organised crime behind the importation and distribution is robbed of a customer base, those in need of treatment are recognised and helped and we clear our jails of the victims of this evil trade who are forced to commit crime to pay for a habit.

remove the trade, supply clean and managed treatment to users and I bet there is a real decrease in petty crime.

Originally Posted by Razor

For a bike riding point of view all drugs have devastating effects.
I can't ride my bike after I smoke a joint, my spatial perception is completely fecked.
After a single beer I'm waaay too confidant for my own survival.

Don't think anyone would even think about drinking or smoking before or during (pit stops) riding. Ever!!!! Madness.

Originally Posted by timwilky

You have to question the harm element. There have been a few examples of sudden death to Ecstasy users whereas sudden death resulting from a one off pint or cigarette is probably extremely rare.

True, but to put those numbers into perspective, the sudden death rate for aspirin users is higher per tablet taken.
I'll admit, that in general, e is taken by younger people than aspirin, but it is still a valid point.
The other aspect of ecstasy related deaths are almost exclusively due to inexperience.

Originally Posted by Daimo

Don't think anyone would even think about drinking or smoking before or during (pit stops) riding. Ever!!!! Madness.

Maybe not on here, but it happens.

Originally Posted by timwilky

Personally I would like to see personal use of all drugs decrimalised to the extent that the organised crime behind the importation and distribution is robbed of a customer base, those in need of treatment are recognised and helped and we clear our jails of the victims of this evil trade who are forced to commit crime to pay for a habit.

remove the trade, supply clean and managed treatment to users and I bet there is a real decrease in petty crime.

And illegal growing (thus saving police time) and illegal dealing (to an aspect), and as you say, save the prisons for the real scum (i understand most big time dealers would be scum anyway) such as peodos, armed robbers, murders etc..

Just look at Amsterdam... Don't see all the weirdos and coked up freaks around the cafes, just the red light district.

In the cafes you only seem to get people wanting to relax for a bit, then go on their merry way.