Couldn't have put it better myself

[DarrenSV650S]

Prime Minister John Howard - Australia


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:



'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'


"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'


'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'


'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American and British citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

[timwilky]

considering John Howard was kicked out of office a couple of months ago. It shows what democratic people in a country that was built on immigration think of his xenophobic rants.

Hardly xenophobic, and if it wasn't for the Christian rubbish in the middle I'd be inclined to side with his.

Their new PM looks to be a disaster.

well if he is out of a job can he come over here and take over please?? we need someone wit ha bit of national pride and comon sense in office compared to these jellyfish we currently have.

i agree with all he said. change Australia for the UK and you have my POV on this subject.

Haven't you opened a can of worms now

I find his speech worrying to say the list, so let me put this in a real life example for you.

I am Greek, born and raised there, my parents for at least 4 generations have been Greek, yet we are not Christians. So why do I have to put up with the cross being displayed in schools? Or why do I have to be taught about Christian faith and not about all faiths in an unbiased way? Why does the Greek Church need to be involved in the running of the country?

I don't disagree that people should be allowed to believe in what they want and live where they want AS LONG AS they don't cause anyone any problems.

If lets say from the speech above you reword it and generalise it then I could agree with it. But be careful Darren cause if you decide to move to another country that could be Greece or Cyprus like a lot of Brits do, make sure you remember that speech cause you could then become the hunted instead of the hunter!

[the_lone_wolf]

John Howard did NOT say this

it's a *******ised version of what he did say mixed in with some right wing christian nut-case's view published in an editorial in america:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp


Howard's comments where nowhere near as confrontational and ill thought out, which are typical themes of examples of people motivated by religious belief twisting reality to suit their own bigoted myopic view of what is "right" in their narrow, petty little minds. disgusting

australia was not founded on christian values (and neither was the USA for that matter) - aus was colonised by europeans and taken from the indigenous natives

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

John Howard did NOT say this

it's a *******ised version of what he did say mixed in with some right wing christian nut-case's view published in an editorial in america:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp


Howard's comments where nowhere near as confrontational and ill thought out, which are typical themes of examples of people motivated by religious belief twisting reality to suit their own bigoted myopic view of what is "right" in their narrow, petty little minds. disgusting

australia was not founded on christian values (and neither was the USA for that matter) - aus was colonised by europeans and taken from the indigenous natives

In John Lennons 'Imagine' song, some american releases changed the lines
'and no religion too' to:
'and one religion too'

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

In John Lennons 'Imagine' song, some american releases changed the lines
'and no religion too' to:
'and one religion too'

yep, you're completely free to express whatever faith you want, as long as it's the same as ours

[SoulKiss]

In 2000 years time, due to cross breeding, all humans will be coffee coloured with slighly slanted eyes.

But although we will all look similar, we will still be killing each other over our Imaginary friends.

Dont you just love the Human Race ?

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

In 2000 years time, due to cross breeding, all humans will be coffee coloured with slighly slanted eyes.

But although we will all look similar, we will still be killing each other over our Imaginary friends.

Dont you just love the Human Race ?

Ive heard this before, but I really dont think it will be the case. I think due to humanities inhearent fear of things strange and different cross breading wont be much more than it is now. we will still look for mates in people of similar or the same creed as ourselves.

I dont mean for strange and different to be taken in an offensive way, but the way society forces fear upon its citizens and the way that physology of race and creed works, you will more likly reject difference.


I might be wrong, we can have this chat again in 2000 years.