What are the dangers of over springing?

[DavieSV]

What problems would arise from a rear shock spring that has a rating that is too high for the riders weight?

I know there are a lot of rear shock threads on here at the moment, so I thought I'd just throw another into the mix

Is it better to over spring than under spring?
Can the rebound damping control the spring to some extent?

Would the rear shock be better to be shorter to compensate for the increased ride hight?

Just a few of the questions rumbling in my head

John

[yorkie_chris]

Other than a very harsh ride, it would mean the wheel moving the bike around and the resulting hopping making you slide out of bends. But I am not sure, and it depends how hard a spring you are thinking of.

[DavieSV]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

the resulting hopping making you slide out of bends

I can do that on a soft spring

[yorkie_chris]

But that was your fault not suspensions
Hehe.


But seriously, what are you thinking of doing? Best bet is a much stiffer spring on a much longer shock! But not so stiff as a 'busa one for curvy. Shock tables are floating about around here.

[DavieSV]

RSVR 04+

Not sure as the spring rating though, had a look around but could not find the right info

[Ruffy]

Taken to an extreme, the ultimate hard spring is a hardtail.

Usually seen on chops and drag bikes (and push bikes and vintage machines) rather than sports bikes admittedly, but proves they can be made to work.

As YC says, harsh ride is the most noticeable phenomenon on the road.

I wouldn't say over springing was a danger, more a dissatisfaction.

[yorkie_chris]

Chops, drag bikes, penny farthings and prehistoric MCs are not exactly known for their cornering prowess!

"working" is an odd term, I do not consider that the stock shock "works"!

[Ruffy]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Chops, drag bikes, penny farthings and prehistoric MCs are not exactly known for their cornering prowess!

Agreed! The point I was illustrating (badly) is that they can still be made to go round corners.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

"working" is an odd term, I do not consider that the stock shock "works"!

Is that because of wrong spring rate, poor damping control, both or something else?

[yorkie_chris]

Spring rate too soft for nearly everyone, underdamped, too short, emulsion type rather than seperated gas/oil.

There is something seriously wrong when a 5k old stock shock is outperformed by a 10 year old, 25k GSXR unit with an even worse spring rate!

[DavieSV]

anyway

What is the ideal figures for rear suspenion on the SV?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I have no knowlage of these things,

As I can see, there are three variables (don't know the correct terms):

1, The amount of compression from fully extended (rear wheel in the air, swing arm not supported) to at rest on the ground with no rider

2, Comprssion from at rest on the ground (no rider) to at rest with rider [static sag?]

3, Compression travel during riding (I presume differs due to road surface)

What would be good, what would be bad?