military beastings

as i know there are a few people on here in the
military i was wondering what your veiws on this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/7532516.stm

[Spikenipple]

Beatings or Bee Stings?

Originally Posted by Spikenipple

Beatings or Bee Stings?

Beastings? Im sure those forces boys are up for anything!!


Steve

It has been going on for years. Generally this kind of thing happens as a result of their actions. The army are very tribal in that respect; look after them, and they look after you. **** them off, and you pay for it.

I don't however condone any of it, and I hope that the people responsible are hung out to dry because of it. The smirks on their faces as they left the first hearing said it all...

It's always been part of military life. Was when I was in. I think everyone should look at all the facts.

Tests subsequently showed he had ecstasy in his body when he died.

Anyone know what effects that stuff has to the body? Anybody know what the body does when it's worked hard with that stuff?

Top level sportsmen who are remarkably fit have been known to drop down dead on the spot with a heart attack.

I'm not choosing one side or the other, but physical fitness is a key requirement of being a soldier. Then there is the consideration of if he should have ever been in the army in the first place. A soldier out on tour of duty in an operational environment taking drugs? Hmmmm.

I have the deepest sympathy for his family but not entirely sure I have the same amount for him. It is sad that this has happened, but the question has to be asked, did the drugs kill him or the beasting he received?

Beastings always have and always should continue.

The thing that is going to f**k me off about it all is now the PC brigade are going to try and sick their ore in to say the Military regime is one of bllying blah blah blah,

This soldier was being punished for something he done wrong, it was a beasting or he would have been fined or given extra duties or similar . In all fairness yes he should have been given water, but the whoe point of the punishment is exactly that a fookin punishment. You cant stop and cuddle them half way through , pet them and check to see if they want their mummys!!

Oh and more to the point this little t*at had E in his body so chances are this was still effecting his ability to regulate body temp properly. less we forget you body sosent let you know when you need water on E.

But the press will not highligt that no they will try and se the Military becomes more of a soft place, it really fuc*s me off. Chances are i reckon that was a serious factor in those blokes being acuitted.

I have been on the recieving end of beastings as i am sure all in the Army have (wont include the RAF as a punishment for them is a hotel with no pool) . You **** uup you grt punished it aint a hard concept to grasp is it?

I think the military is too harsh! I can't beleive you could be KILLED in it! If people don't want to do excercise then they should have the option to go and sit down instead. There is no sense in running around and putting your face in mud. And always being yelled at, they aren't even polite! You never hear a "please charge" or "thank you for the air support". Some people just aren't as good at press-ups as others, they should help them out, give them a special uniform so the Taliban don't shoot at them so hard.

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think the military is too harsh! I can't beleive you could be KILLED in it! If people don't want to do excercise then they should have the option to go and sit down instead. There is no sense in running around and putting your face in mud. And always being yelled at, they aren't even polite! You never hear a "please charge" or "thank you for the air support". Some people just aren't as good at press-ups as others, they should help them out, give them a special uniform so the Taliban don't shoot at them so hard.

Good point well made.

ive had a couple of beastings and accepted then as part of the life i was in , and how would the nco's involved know there were drugs in his system??

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think the military is too harsh! I can't beleive you could be KILLED in it! If people don't want to do excercise then they should have the option to go and sit down instead. There is no sense in running around and putting your face in mud. And always being yelled at, they aren't even polite! You never hear a "please charge" or "thank you for the air support". Some people just aren't as good at press-ups as others, they should help them out, give them a special uniform so the Taliban don't shoot at them so hard.

I agree. Its stupid getting treat like a child. It does my head in. Granted some of the Army lads do act like animals but thats because they get treat like they do I think.

Something that does my head in in the RAF and its no where near the same level as the Army is.

Should this have happened NO! I think some people take a little too much joy in seeing people suffer and I think thats probably why this went so far as to kill the individual.

And they wonder why they cant recruit? Heh.