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Old 19-10-08, 12:45 AM   #1
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Default no gears.

ok i got to go out and play all day today and what blooooody good fun it was.

i'm finally getting to grips with the handling of the sv, this engine breaking malarky was doing my nut in. but i think i'v cracked it (used to riding 2 strokes), and my lordy lord its its the most fun i have had in a loooooong time. the grip just does not stop, i'm down to and starting to encompass the storm logo on the avons.

but enough of that...

my question is.. has anybody experienced their bike not wanting to go down the box.. its like the gear pedal is all sloshy with nothing there.. and it wont select gears.. it only happens once in a while and mainly when riding at 70 for quite a long time then slowing down for dual carriageway exits or roundabouts. its fine when i get to a stop. then knock it down from there.

the bike has had it first service last week. it done it before the service but i forgot to mention it when it was in.

should i be worried?
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Old 19-10-08, 12:51 AM   #2
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Do not worry about it , The Sv Lump is a solid beast . I had this recently with blipping on downchanges and finding false neutrals .... was a touch too much oil on my sump . I had the same thing when approaching a fast stop and snicking down 2 or 3 gears at a time before letting the clutch out . I do it one at a time or 2 tops and it`s fine . I`m sure somebody has a better explanation of this as Jack Daniels has confuddled my head
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Old 19-10-08, 12:56 AM   #3
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ahhh that might explain it then .. yup it is happening when i try to go down 2 gears at a time ...

so its not just me ... rofl ..

cheers badger... ohhh and enjoy ur jack
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Old 19-10-08, 01:03 AM   #4
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If it happens then find Neutral when at a stop , It won`t find neutral so easy , so let clutch out in that gear then pull it in when it bites and snick neutral in , might take 2 or 3 tries but it`ll happen , and you will get to know when it is going to happen . Eventually you will learn to avoid what causes this and it will be a distant memory ..... then somebody will use the search feature (and fizzwheel will smile at such thoughts) and dredge this thread back up , whereupon I will say "I told you so"
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Old 19-10-08, 10:46 AM   #5
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Default Re: no gears.

Check the linkage isn't binding. Would be unusual on a new bike but worth checking.
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Old 19-10-08, 10:54 AM   #6
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Default Re: no gears.

clear the sh!te out from behind the front sprocket cover, thats a usual suspect that adds to dodgy gear changing
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Old 19-10-08, 11:05 AM   #7
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Default Re: no gears.

Are you letting the lever centre itself?
Any slight pressure on it will prevent this, so there is not enough movement left to engage the next gear.
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Old 19-10-08, 11:11 AM   #8
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Default Re: no gears.

OK start with the basics.

Check Clutch Adjustment
Clean, lube and tension chain appropriately
Check the oil level in the sight glass and make sure its not over filled.

If your still having a problem, and its a 2nd hand bike or one thats been stood for ages. Take the gear lever off and clean up the shaft and also carefully peel the fibre bush off and clean and lubricate that and then put it all back together again.

Take care with the fibre bush as you cant buy it on its own and if you bust it you'll have to buy a whole new lever. I wussed out with mine and gave it a good squirt with WD40 and then span it round the shaft till it moved freely and then greased it all up and it was the end of my gear change woes.

Having difficult finding neutral when stopped is usually IMHO, either chian tension or the sump is over filled.
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Old 19-10-08, 12:39 PM   #9
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Default Re: no gears.

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Check the linkage isn't binding. Would be unusual on a new bike but worth checking.
yup checked ... its not .. cheers chris

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clear the sh!te out from behind the front sprocket cover, thats a usual suspect that adds to dodgy gear changing
no sh!te in there .. but good suggestion as i had the same problem with my brothers duke 750ss... cheers dizzy

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Are you letting the lever centre itself?
Any slight pressure on it will prevent this, so there is not enough movement left to engage the next gear.
yup releasing all pressure on leaver between trying to change ... makes no odds... good thinking though puny....

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OK start with the basics.

Check Clutch Adjustment
Clean, lube and tension chain appropriately
Check the oil level in the sight glass and make sure its not over filled.
all checked and done

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If your still having a problem, and its a 2nd hand bike or one thats been stood for ages. Take the gear lever off and clean up the shaft and also carefully peel the fibre bush off and clean and lubricate that and then put it all back together again.
its a new k8 and has only done 1200 miles from 31st august

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Having difficult finding neutral when stopped is usually IMHO, either chian tension or the sump is over filled.
no difficulty finding neutral.
it only happens when decelerating and dropping gears (yes i also blip the throttle while doing it)

but some good info for future reference (information now placed in grey matter .. lol)

cheers fizz
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Old 19-10-08, 01:10 PM   #10
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Default Re: no gears.

On a brand new bike, I'd take that back to the dealer and get them to look at it.
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