Feeling a bit peed off.

[hindle8907]

I work in I.T and have been with my company for 2 years i wont tell you how much i earn but its really low for what i do. And i have never had a pay rise.

Anyway i asked for a pay rise this time last year and was told, the company cant give me one this side of xmass as we are making some redundancies but I don’t see why not into a bit after the new year because i like your work and you work hard ....so its got to October this year and i asked again and was told by my boss that he would ask again for me and he come back today and said I can give you an extra 1000 pounds a year if i will be on call every other weekend for emergency calls only ... EG if a server went down or the phone system went down.
so it will be more than likely i wont even get any calls but its really peed me off because im taking on extra responsibility for an extra grand what i should of been getting anyway.

I cant decline of the offer because i really need the money but i think their really taking the Pi$$ what do you think ?

I should be on at least 3 grand more than i am on now there are plenty of other jobs out there what i could apply which pay 4 grand more than i am on now but as i am doing my NVQ's and Microsoft qualifications i cant leave untill i have finished them late next year.

Its upset me a bit because yesterday when he said he had some good news i was thinking all last night i am getting a decent pay rise.

and turned out to be the above.

I know i should be thankful for having a job but it gets me down knowing im working so hard and not getting the money i deserve.
And the company isn’t doing too bad because they are employing lots of new engineers because there is so much work on.

They are massive company who service all the bakery machines in all the major supermarkets. (multi million pound company)

Was part of the AGA group now AFE.

Personally, I think that's a bit off, but it's the way of the world, many companies are using the recession as an excuse to clean out dead-wood and hold back salary increases.

What do you do in IT?

Look for something better/more rewarding.

Don't think that just because you're doing qualifications, you can't leave. Many companies will buy out the cost of the qualification and pay for you to finish it, especially if you don't go through a recruitment agency.

[Biker Biggles]

Big company?Is there a union you can join?One thing is sure.You wont win on your own.An extra grand for being on call every other weekend?Id tell them where to shove that and get a part time Saturday job for extra money.

[fizzwheel]

I think your lucky you have a job. I also think that your lucky you got a payrise at all. £1000 in your pocket is better than a kick in the b*ll*cks or a P45 and a thanks very much.

IMHO

[hindle8907]

Originally Posted by boot

Personally, I think that's a bit off, but it's the way of the world, many companies are using the recession as an excuse to clean out dead-wood and hold back salary increases.

Originally Posted by boot

What do you do in IT?

Look for something better/more rewarding.

Don't think that just because you're doing qualifications, you can't leave. Many companies will buy out the cost of the qualification and pay for you to finish it, especially if you don't go through a recruitment agency.

I am an IT Technician me and my boss are the only 2 in the IT Department i manage around 200 users on 3 different sites (boss does feck all lol ).

Its not the company who are paying for the qualifications its the government but i can only do them if i am in a place of work and the company agree to let me do the courses. Which my company did.

I have applied for jobs that would get me on the wage i should be on but none of them are willing to let me carry on my qualifications as I would need around 6 weeks off thorough out the year to do the courses.

+1 on what Fizz said

Im currently trying to get into ICT (Although i want to be a Police officer now but my area isnt recruiting) and i have had one interview in over 20 applications...

i agree, there using the recession to reduce/remove xmas bonus's as well.

Though in my experience in IT, its more what you know / experience you have, more than what qualifications you have.

i have interviewed MSCE's and computer grads who knew f**k all, the last person i employed, on paper, didnt have any qualifications at all.

I think that isn't bad to be fair.

I took on a person's work as well as my own in June with no payrise offered and when I asked I was told No you have a job! (but in a nicer way).

We are looking at a 2% pay rise this year which means I will get just short of £400 extra for taking on the work I have. They have saved 15k by the person leaving. Am i pi$$ed off? Of course I am but I'd rather that than my P45.

If you feel its not enough go back to your manager and ask if there is any chance of a bit more, if you have job adverts to support what other companies are paying use them! It depends how friendly you are with your boss, and how he would take that type of conversation.

[hindle8907]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I think your lucky you have a job. I also think that your lucky you got a payrise at all. £1000 in your pocket is better than a kick in the b*ll*cks or a P45 and a thanks very much.

IMHO

ITs not just a 1000 pound pay rise is it Though.... its giving up every other weekend and not being able to have a drink incase i get called in for an extra 19 pounds a week.

I was told i would have a pay rise this year.
And now they are saying i can but i have to take on more responsiblity.
I should of been geting the rise anwyays so i think they are taking the rip a little bit.

i wouldnt even except if i wasnt desprate for the money.

i would rather go without.

I work my Balls off for next to miniumum wage in a Skilled IT job.

[hindle8907]

Originally Posted by Puppie

i agree, there using the recession to reduce/remove xmas bonus's as well.

Though in my experience in IT, its more what you know / experience you have, more than what qualifications you have.

i have interviewed MSCE's and computer grads who knew f**k all, the last person i employed, on paper, didnt have any qualifications at all.

I have 3 years IT experience. 1 working as and engineer and 2 as a technician.

but the Microsoft certs help.