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Old 14-03-10, 10:22 PM   #1
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Default Average Speed Cams?

Do these work on bikes

They only seem to look straight onto the bike, so no number plate reconition?

Anyone been caught by one of these or know you can get past them for a fact? I would obviously never break the speed limit, nor condone it
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Old 14-03-10, 10:28 PM   #2
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Forward facing your ok, rear facing your fooked.
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Old 14-03-10, 10:32 PM   #3
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Thats what i thought!
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Old 14-03-10, 10:58 PM   #4
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I never risk it, I have some feeling that they do the opposite side of the your on anyways! Someone tell me I'm mistaken?!
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Old 14-03-10, 11:04 PM   #5
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I never risk it, I have some feeling that they do the opposite side of the your on anyways! Someone tell me I'm mistaken?!

Well i've been ok through the 5 sets of 50's they have on the M6 everytime i go down to Birmingham.

If they are on the same side of the road as you and are facing you then your ok!
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Old 14-03-10, 11:10 PM   #6
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there are new rear facing average speed cameras, cat and fiddle have them aparently
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Old 15-03-10, 11:26 AM   #7
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Is it really worth the risk and uncertainty? Just slow down and safe yourself the worry.
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Old 15-03-10, 11:36 AM   #8
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If you completely take the **** and sail through a bank of 5/6 at over 100mph i should imagine they might make attempts to find you.

Wasn't there a bloke last year who always went past the same camera at silly speeds who got collared? Southampton rings a bell Think it was posted on here? I digress...
Anyway they had him but that was more to the fact that he past the same camera everyday at nearly the same time.
But i'm 99% sure they can get you on a 5 point recognition system? ie: colour of bike, boots, leathers, helmet, decals etc, etc, etc.
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Old 15-03-10, 11:41 AM   #9
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If you completely take the **** and sail through a bank of 5/6 at over 100mph i should imagine they might make attempts to find you.

Seggons saw a yellow curvy and a blue pointy going through the speed cams on the m1 at well over *** last year on the way back from the peaks.

I don't think the police ever found them

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Old 15-03-10, 12:07 PM   #10
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If you completely take the **** and sail through a bank of 5/6 at over 100mph i should imagine they might make attempts to find you.

Wasn't there a bloke last year who always went past the same camera at silly speeds who got collared? Southampton rings a bell Think it was posted on here? I digress...
Anyway they had him but that was more to the fact that he past the same camera everyday at nearly the same time.
But i'm 99% sure they can get you on a 5 point recognition system? ie: colour of bike, boots, leathers, helmet, decals etc, etc, etc.
Don't take this as gospel...

As far as I understand it, the cameras work in a minimum set of two. They record your reg plate using APNR, then record a video image, and overlay this image with that info and a date and time stamp. When you pass the second camera it records a second image with another date and time stamp, and again using your reg plate on APNR, marry this up with the first image. It then calculates your speed using the date and times recorded vs the distance between the cameras. Only if that speed is above a certain threshold set for recording an offence, does it save the images, otherwise it discards them.

Therefore I believe that if it doesn't have your reg plate to do an APNR on, the computer can't marry up the two images, therefore cannot do a time/distance calculation, and therefore doesn't "save" any images recorded. I'm not even sure if it records the first image if an APNR fails.

Just my 2p, happy to be stood corrected, these things are so surrounded by myth, but this is what the most reliable sources I have read have said about them.

I think guys that have been caught by repetitively speeding through cameras, based upon bike, gear, etc have been speeding through Truvelo or forward facing Gatso

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