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Old 17-02-10, 08:46 PM   #1
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Sorry if this has been covered a gazillion times, i've had a search and had no luck. It's something that's been bugging me with my riding and I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong.

When coming out of a corner, I'm quite apprehensive about when I can put 'more' power down to get going again. I know that's quite vague and subjective but I worry that if I don't sit the bike up before giving the bike much throttle it'll slip out from under me. Hopefully new tyres will sort some of this confidence out (tyres currently look like they belong on a car they're that square) but it's led to a tendancy for me to counter-steer (fairly aggressively) my bike BACK upright out of a corner to get myself sitting up again and I wondered if this was good practise or not?

Bear in mind I'm still a fairly inexperienced rider so any advice is welcome
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Old 17-02-10, 08:50 PM   #2
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Sorry if this has been covered a gazillion times, i've had a search and had no luck. It's something that's been bugging me with my riding and I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong.

When coming out of a corner, I'm quite apprehensive about when I can put 'more' power down to get going again. I know that's quite vague and subjective but I worry that if I don't sit the bike up before giving the bike much throttle it'll slip out from under me. Hopefully new tyres will sort some of this confidence out (tyres currently look like they belong on a car they're that square) but it's led to a tendancy for me to counter-steer (fairly aggressively) my bike BACK upright out of a corner to get myself sitting up again and I wondered if this was good practise or not?

Bear in mind I'm still a fairly inexperienced rider so any advice is welcome
This is not the time of year to be testing.
Generally speaking; as soon as I start picking it up I apply more throttle, however -don't take advice from me!
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Old 17-02-10, 08:50 PM   #3
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cF, I'm pretty inexperienced too, so I'll be watching this thread to see what the others say, but I find that putting down more power at the point I'm looking to get the bike back up actually helps the bike sit up.
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Old 17-02-10, 08:51 PM   #4
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You don't have to have the bike upright to apply power, unless it's very slippery, I wouldn't be countersteering on the exit just to get the bike upright

The key isn't how much you're leant over but how smoothly you apply the power- the trick is to apply it smoothly so that the back squats and pushes the tyre into the road, getting this right will result in a much smoother riding style and with smoothness comes speed

If you're inexperienced I'd say you're probably nowhere near the limit, but going out looking for the limit on the road will almost certainly end badly
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Old 17-02-10, 08:58 PM   #5
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going out looking for the limit on the road will almost certainly end badly
Exactly my thoughts, don't want to push myself till I crash, just want to find the best way to get myself going again! Sounds like I'm doing it a bit wrong right now though :s
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Exactly my thoughts, don't want to push myself till I crash, just want to find the best way to get myself going again! Sounds like I'm doing it a bit wrong right now though :s
Leave it for now, don't concentrate on trying to go faster, concentrate on making your riding smoother, you'll end up being faster as a result and you won't be a liability pushing beyond your limits

Then when it warms up get yourself booked on a trackday, if you're looking to find the limits be prepared to come off a few times but you'll learn a whole lot more than you will on the road
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Old 17-02-10, 09:10 PM   #7
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If you go in slow and controlled, and learn how to do that first, after a while you'll learn how to come out of a corner quicker without even trying.

I'm not one to recommend track days...I bought the bikes to ride on the road, therefore I'll learn my skill on the road. Personal choice, can't see the appeal, especially if you are new to bikes.
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Old 17-02-10, 09:21 PM   #8
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try one of these training days:

http://www.bikeskillsacademy.com/

master your bike's handling at 5mph and speed will come naturally
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Old 17-02-10, 11:01 PM   #9
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Apparently, you want to be using the limit point as a guide to speeding up/slowing down for corners. The rare occasions I get it right (like throttle blipping!) it is really good! Progressive, fast riding; no scares, nice and smooth. Usually it's in too fast and then brake hard and lose momentum, or power on too early and have to lose a little when I realise the corner continues... What usually works is when I give up caring about pushing it, and TRY to be smooth with everything. Brakes, throttle, turning in, overtaking, filtering.
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Old 17-02-10, 11:09 PM   #10
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If your tyres are squared off .. change them ..... and all will become clear ...
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