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Old 24-08-05, 08:16 AM   #1
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Default "Vision Zero" Threat to biking or MCN scaremongeri

In today’s MCN there is an article about "Vision Zero" a transport policy being adopted by Sweden (some details on Vision Zero here) where the goal is to reduce road deaths and injuries to zero by 2020.
The author Claes Tingvall said on TV "There is no room for motorcycles in Vision Zero. We must prevent the recruiting of new motorcyclists. Thinking long-term I regret to say motorcyclists must go" and apparently there may be pressure on the Government to adopt Vision Zero here as it will considered as international best practice although they will apparently gauge public opinion first.

What do you think real threat or like I said MCN scaremongering?

One thing I am puzzled about is motorcycles aren't the only vehicles on the road that are involved in fatal accidents and reducing fatal accidents to zero is imo not really possible.

I haven’t read the full details of the paper yet (I’m doing that now), I just wonder how this could work.
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Old 24-08-05, 08:21 AM   #2
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lets ban cars, bikes, bicycles, planes, trains ohhh and walking then hopefully it will keep casualty's don to a minimum.

What a load of horsecarp, itll never work.

**Edit** didnt read it all as im too tired, but got the general gist.
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Old 24-08-05, 08:31 AM   #3
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Vison 0 is only possible will a fully intergrated, computer controlled, reilable transport system. Something I don't see them getting sorted till 2100 at the earliest..... And then your probably still get deaths due to vandalisem and terorists.
Its just a thing to try to sell papers.. plus how they going to stop me riding my bike when I'm 45. I'll park outside number 10 with all the other bikers if they do, after all by that time I've turned into a even more contankerous *******
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Old 24-08-05, 08:36 AM   #4
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MCN Scare mongering probably

They dont half print some rubbish
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Old 24-08-05, 08:37 AM   #5
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I've turned into a even more cotanterous b*stard
Is that possible?
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Old 24-08-05, 09:17 AM   #6
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I've turned into a even more contankerous b*stard
Is that possible?
very... the formula is C=A/B*D
where C is who contankerous I am
A is my age
B is number of running bikes
D is number of dependants
So I'm 30/1*1=30
By the time I'm 45 I expect to be 45/1*2=90
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Old 24-08-05, 09:20 AM   #7
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WTF is Contanterous?


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Old 24-08-05, 09:21 AM   #8
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By the time I'm 45 I expect to be 45/1*2=90
'cough' 22.5 'cough'
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Old 24-08-05, 09:22 AM   #9
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It isnt scarremongering. It truly is Sweedens plan. A bloke who works here is sweedish and its been spoke about for years. The fact that thier vehicle toll over there is something like 15% of ours, and thier biking population is in its thousands, then it may just work over there. However, over here there are over a million motorcylists/scooter riders in this country alone, so, it would be very interesting.

I agree with grinch, but i reckon that it will be more like twenty to ten, than nine o'clock
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Old 24-08-05, 09:24 AM   #10
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By the time I'm 45 I expect to be 45/1*2=90
'cough' 22.5 'cough'
No 90

45/(1x2) should have been the equasion
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