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timwilky · 15-02-06, 07:24 AM

IMHO the only logical choice. A total ban. Yes I am an ex of 12 years standing.

Only problem is it is probably unenforcable. If my locals don't enforce chucking out they are also going to turn a blind eye to smoking as well.

As my daughter put it last night, "When I go in a pub, it is my choice whether or not to drink alchohol, but I have no choice over second hand smoke"

In those that do enforce it I can see it being like some workplaces where you have to walk through a doorway of concentrated smoke in order to get inside

Supervox · 15-02-06, 07:47 AM

First of all let me state YES, I AM A SMOKER !!

The thing that gets me about this whole smoking ban thing is the hypocrisy that surrounds it. I accept that smoking may harm my health, & that other people have the right to a 'clean' environment - so, if it's so dangerous & anti-social, why not just ban it altogether ?

TAX REVENUE - that is why !!

No British government could afford to a total ban without major tax increases somewhere else.

Personally I couldn't give a damn about the ban - I don't smoke in the house because of my children, most restaurants round this way have been no-smoking for years, so it's not gonna bother me standing outside a pub if I want a cigarette.

15-02-06, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Supervox

First of all let me state YES, I AM A SMOKER !!

The thing that gets me about this whole smoking ban thing is the hypocrisy that surrounds it. I accept that smoking may harm my health, & that other people have the right to a 'clean' environment - so, if it's so dangerous & anti-social, why not just ban it altogether ?

TAX REVENUE - that is why !!

No British government could afford to a total ban without major tax increases somewhere else.

Personally I couldn't give a damn about the ban - I don't smoke in the house because of my children, most restaurants round this way have been no-smoking for years, so it's not gonna bother me standing outside a pub if I want a cigarette.

Totaly agree.

I would also like to say that in a lot of cases smokers die younger, for you lot that don't smoke surely thats a good thing as it helps to ease the burden on the state pensions so you may end up getting one, i really couldn't give a to55 about the ban as, like supervox, i only ever smoke outside anyway.

15-02-06, 08:45 AM

I think if they shot the first few found smoking in pubs it should be easy to enforce after that.

anna · 15-02-06, 08:47 AM

I'm a smoker and to be honest I can go all day without a smoke until it comes to a night out in the pub.. if they banned smoking it would certainly mean i would quit!

15-02-06, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by anna

I'm a smoker and to be honest I can go all day without a smoke until it comes to a night out in the pub.. if they banned smoking it would certainly mean i would quit!

They have.

15-02-06, 09:00 AM

I lost both my parents to smoking related illnesses, so I guess you can tell which side of the fence I sit..

But for me, it's occasions like last night that I want improved so am glad about the ban. I took my wife to a small restaurant that allows smoking. I had about 5 smokers around me and at times it really annoyed me.

Yes, smokers do have rights, but what about us people that don't smoke who are constantly subjected to having the smell and discomfort around us ? What's my choice , to get up and leave ?

Personally I find many smokers very selfish, just lighting up when THEY want to, with no consideration for others. It's about bloody time this was sorted out....

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15-02-06, 09:11 AM

Pretty good news I reckon, but I'm not really sure it should be banned in private clubs too - that seems to eradicate the one chance smokers had to continue to smoke and socialize at the same time, with like minded puffers.

As the BBC news put it last night, Parliament was making the choice between the nation's freedom of choice and public health, and chose the latter. Doesn't really sit easy with my sentiments as a general principle, but at least the nanny state has been put to good use at last.

Viney · 15-02-06, 09:31 AM

Lo0ok you fools. All they have done, is banned the smoking of Blankets!

Tish, dont you read the headlines!

I think its wrong. People should be aloud to smoke where they want. Im a non smoker, but i see un underlying thing to all this. Next thing, they will stop smoking in the open, then in your house....just mark my words.

Before long, we will be living in one of these 'fantasy' worlds that we see in movies. Anyway, i stuff up Gordon Browns figures by buying my mums ciggarettes abroad.

Skip · 15-02-06, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Viney

Before long, we will be living in one of these 'fantasy' worlds that we see in movies.

My girlfriend has based her dissertation on "Hyperreality" - its quite an interesting subject...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality

Oh and as an ex-smoker like Mr Wilky - I think its great! :P

15-02-06, 07:24 AM	#1
timwilky Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Not in Yorkshire. (Thank God) Posts: 4,116	Smokin! IMHO the only logical choice. A total ban. Yes I am an ex of 12 years standing. Only problem is it is probably unenforcable. If my locals don't enforce chucking out they are also going to turn a blind eye to smoking as well. As my daughter put it last night, "When I go in a pub, it is my choice whether or not to drink alchohol, but I have no choice over second hand smoke" In those that do enforce it I can see it being like some workplaces where you have to walk through a doorway of concentrated smoke in order to get inside __________________ Not Grumpy, opinionated.

15-02-06, 07:47 AM	#2
Supervox No more Mr Nice Guy Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saaafffend, innit !! Posts: 1,365	First of all let me state YES, I AM A SMOKER !! The thing that gets me about this whole smoking ban thing is the hypocrisy that surrounds it. I accept that smoking may harm my health, & that other people have the right to a 'clean' environment - so, if it's so dangerous & anti-social, why not just ban it altogether ? TAX REVENUE - that is why !! No British government could afford to a total ban without major tax increases somewhere else. Personally I couldn't give a damn about the ban - I don't smoke in the house because of my children, most restaurants round this way have been no-smoking for years, so it's not gonna bother me standing outside a pub if I want a cigarette. __________________ Never argue with an idiot - he'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience

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15-02-06, 08:45 AM	#4
Moo Guest Posts: n/a	I think if they shot the first few found smoking in pubs it should be easy to enforce after that.

15-02-06, 08:47 AM	#5
anna Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tower Hamlets but with Shutters on the windows Posts: 1,522	I'm a smoker and to be honest I can go all day without a smoke until it comes to a night out in the pub.. if they banned smoking it would certainly mean i would quit!

15-02-06, 09:00 AM	#7
Jelster Guest Posts: n/a	I lost both my parents to smoking related illnesses, so I guess you can tell which side of the fence I sit.. But for me, it's occasions like last night that I want improved so am glad about the ban. I took my wife to a small restaurant that allows smoking. I had about 5 smokers around me and at times it really annoyed me. Yes, smokers do have rights, but what about us people that don't smoke who are constantly subjected to having the smell and discomfort around us ? What's my choice , to get up and leave ? Personally I find many smokers very selfish, just lighting up when THEY want to, with no consideration for others. It's about bloody time this was sorted out.... .

15-02-06, 09:11 AM	#8
helen Guest Posts: n/a	Pretty good news I reckon, but I'm not really sure it should be banned in private clubs too - that seems to eradicate the one chance smokers had to continue to smoke and socialize at the same time, with like minded puffers. As the BBC news put it last night, Parliament was making the choice between the nation's freedom of choice and public health, and chose the latter. Doesn't really sit easy with my sentiments as a general principle, but at least the nanny state has been put to good use at last.

15-02-06, 09:31 AM	#9
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Lo0ok you fools. All they have done, is banned the smoking of Blankets! Tish, dont you read the headlines! I think its wrong. People should be aloud to smoke where they want. Im a non smoker, but i see un underlying thing to all this. Next thing, they will stop smoking in the open, then in your house....just mark my words. Before long, we will be living in one of these 'fantasy' worlds that we see in movies. Anyway, i stuff up Gordon Browns figures by buying my mums ciggarettes abroad.