Turn in point dilemma - SV650.org

31-07-06, 11:32 PM

Am I missing something?

Been reading up on cornering techniques and everywhere I read (except roadsense) they mention a turn in point. Its the same advice in mags web etc - look for your turn in point - pick a landmark such as a tree, drain or someth similar landmark and use this as your turn in.

Now - if you are supposed to look through the corner all the time then why on earth would I want to "fixate" on something and take my eye off where I want to go?

01-08-06, 10:09 AM

Do the Californian Superbike School and they will explain.

Basically, you pick your turn in point, turn on it and then look into and around the corner and into the next. It's the same as your braking point really. I wouldn't worry about it too much on the road to be honest.

northwind · 01-08-06, 10:58 AM

Not exactly handy to get to CSS from Kinross though

01-08-06, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by northwind

Not exactly handy to get to CSS from Kinross though

Can't help where the guy lives I'm afraid. The are doing a course at Knockhill, is that close enough or would you like me to speak to Andy and ask if he can get closer???

He could always just buy the book.

http://www.superbikeschool.co.uk/

northwind · 01-08-06, 11:03 AM

Ah, when's the Knockhill course? They did it in the past but then stopped, it'd be great if they pick it up again...

01-08-06, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by northwind

Ah, when's the Knockhill course? They did it in the past but then stopped, it'd be great if they pick it up again...

16 Aug 06 £299.

northwind · 01-08-06, 11:18 AM

Excellent, cheers.

01-08-06, 11:38 AM

I think the 'turn in point' is only a term used on track when you are doing the same corners repetitively and are trying to be consitent or speed up by changing this.

For advanced road riding you use the term 'vanishing point', which is looking as far ahead as possible to where the road disappears.

01-08-06, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooby Drew

I think the 'turn in point' is only a term used on track when you are doing the same corners repetitively and are trying to be consitent or speed up by changing this.

For advanced road riding you use the term 'vanishing point', which is looking as far ahead as possible to where the road disappears.

Two completely different terms which have no connection whatsoever I'm afraid.

You can still have a turn in point on the road, in fact you have to as this is the point where you push on the inside of the bar to make the bike dip and go around the bend (I take it the board has had the 'counter steer' row?).

My point was that there is no specific area on the road where you turn in as every bend and corner is different.

northwind · 01-08-06, 11:57 AM

If you read what he said, he didn't say they were the same thing did he?

31-07-06, 11:32 PM	#1
stuartyboy Guest Posts: n/a	Turn in point dilemma Am I missing something? Been reading up on cornering techniques and everywhere I read (except roadsense) they mention a turn in point. Its the same advice in mags web etc - look for your turn in point - pick a landmark such as a tree, drain or someth similar landmark and use this as your turn in. Now - if you are supposed to look through the corner all the time then why on earth would I want to "fixate" on something and take my eye off where I want to go?

01-08-06, 10:58 AM	#3
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Not exactly handy to get to CSS from Kinross though __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

01-08-06, 11:03 AM	#5
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Ah, when's the Knockhill course? They did it in the past but then stopped, it'd be great if they pick it up again... __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

01-08-06, 11:18 AM	#7
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Excellent, cheers. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

01-08-06, 11:57 AM	#10
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	If you read what he said, he didn't say they were the same thing did he? __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

01-08-06, 10:09 AM	#2
SV1000s Guest Posts: n/a	Do the Californian Superbike School and they will explain. Basically, you pick your turn in point, turn on it and then look into and around the corner and into the next. It's the same as your braking point really. I wouldn't worry about it too much on the road to be honest.

01-08-06, 11:38 AM	#8
Scooby Drew Guest Posts: n/a	I think the 'turn in point' is only a term used on track when you are doing the same corners repetitively and are trying to be consitent or speed up by changing this. For advanced road riding you use the term 'vanishing point', which is looking as far ahead as possible to where the road disappears.

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