2007 Oxford Hot Grips - SV650.org

17-01-07, 03:48 PM

Chaps,

I made a purchase of the lastest Oxford Hot Grips cos the ones i had (previous Oxford Hot Grips with the turny nob) died - well, the control button to adjust the temperature stopped switching on and off! The new ones are more sexy with LED's and stuff...... but...

...i installed the new control module as it was just a case of unplugging old one and plugging in new one but the damn things switches off when you are idling, ie, at the traffic lights! and they dont switch back on when you start moving....

anyone know if there is a way to by-pass this, otherwise these badboys are useless to me as my journey is stop start stop start to work

Thanks all!
yans.

17-01-07, 03:57 PM

Where is your controller wired into?

IIRC, they're designed to cut the power after the ignition dies, so they should have no knowledge of engine speed!

17-01-07, 04:02 PM

Wow, oxford don't seem to have a good track record do they!

17-01-07, 04:03 PM

they are wired into the spare fuse in the fuse box...... exactly as the previous ones were and they worked a treat...

... i think these one are far more intelligent and do sense current or something and check whether revs are being applied by the amount of current running through them.... getting a bit out of my depth here!

these things are too intelligent which to be honest, i dont need!!!

17-01-07, 04:21 PM

If it's wired to the fuse box, it takes positive from the same place as mine. Namely, the ignition.

Where is it grounded to?

The ignition circuit doesn't give a hoot about engine speed, so I can't see the positive wire affecting things. Maybe they're getting too hot & cutting out?

They are more advanced than the older ones, but not by much, and I wouldn't trust that low battery cut off they have, even if it worked properly!

17-01-07, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yans_sv

Chaps,

I made a purchase of the lastest Oxford Hot Grips cos the ones i had (previous Oxford Hot Grips with the turny nob) died - well, the control button to adjust the temperature stopped switching on and off! The new ones are more sexy with LED's and stuff...... but...

...i installed the new control module as it was just a case of unplugging old one and plugging in new one but the damn things switches off when you are idling, ie, at the traffic lights! and they dont switch back on when you start moving....

anyone know if there is a way to by-pass this, otherwise these badboys are useless to me as my journey is stop start stop start to work

Thanks all!
yans.

this is because when your battery gets a bit low they turn off.......try charging your battery 1st

northwind · 17-01-07, 04:57 PM

Hum. I'm thinking it could be to do with the charging system. The grips can't sense revs, but if there's something monitoring battery status then that's got the capacity to tell when the charge drops- and the bike will produce less power at idle than at revs. It shouldn't really make a difference, but maybe if your charging system's not 100% the voltage would drop far enough to set the box off.

17-01-07, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

Hum. I'm thinking it could be to do with the charging system. The grips can't sense revs, but if there's something monitoring battery status then that's got the capacity to tell when the charge drops- and the bike will produce less power at idle than at revs. It shouldn't really make a difference, but maybe if your charging system's not 100% the voltage would drop far enough to set the box off.

Possibly an early warning of Reg/Rect failure etc then.

Stands to reason to me. I was actually thinking along similar lines, but only if the grips are grounded to the battery, as opposed the frame. Charge variations could come into account that way if combined with a dodgy earth in a number of places.

17-01-07, 05:19 PM

[quote="Baph"]

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

Hum. I'm thinking it could be to do with the charging system. The grips can't sense revs, but if there's something monitoring battery status then that's got the capacity to tell when the charge drops- and the bike will produce less power at idle than at revs. It shouldn't really make a difference, but maybe if your charging system's not 100% the voltage would drop far enough to set the box off.

Possibly an early warning of Reg/Rect failure etc then.

quote]

i would think so?

18-01-07, 08:03 AM

thank you all for your thoughts.

i have contacted the shop i bought them from and they are going to speak with their Product Manager at Oxford and get back to me. As I said, the previous model of these grips (on/off turny knob) worked perfectly - this model definately has some form of sensing (not sure what) inside the control unit that is quite frankly OTT!

a colleague at work says his original honda heated grips switch off at idle but kick back in when revs are up again (or a higher voltage is detecting due to charging)!

ah, the whoes of being a panzy on these cold mornings!

thanks again all - keep the thoughts coming in! i will keep you posted as to the Product Managers views.

17-01-07, 03:48 PM	#1
yans_sv Guest Posts: n/a	2007 Oxford Hot Grips Chaps, I made a purchase of the lastest Oxford Hot Grips cos the ones i had (previous Oxford Hot Grips with the turny nob) died - well, the control button to adjust the temperature stopped switching on and off! The new ones are more sexy with LED's and stuff...... but... ...i installed the new control module as it was just a case of unplugging old one and plugging in new one but the damn things switches off when you are idling, ie, at the traffic lights! and they dont switch back on when you start moving.... anyone know if there is a way to by-pass this, otherwise these badboys are useless to me as my journey is stop start stop start to work Thanks all! yans.

17-01-07, 04:57 PM	#7
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Hum. I'm thinking it could be to do with the charging system. The grips can't sense revs, but if there's something monitoring battery status then that's got the capacity to tell when the charge drops- and the bike will produce less power at idle than at revs. It shouldn't really make a difference, but maybe if your charging system's not 100% the voltage would drop far enough to set the box off. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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17-01-07, 03:57 PM	#2
Baph Guest Posts: n/a	Where is your controller wired into? IIRC, they're designed to cut the power after the ignition dies, so they should have no knowledge of engine speed!

17-01-07, 04:02 PM	#3
thor Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, oxford don't seem to have a good track record do they!

17-01-07, 04:03 PM	#4
yans_sv Guest Posts: n/a	they are wired into the spare fuse in the fuse box...... exactly as the previous ones were and they worked a treat... ... i think these one are far more intelligent and do sense current or something and check whether revs are being applied by the amount of current running through them.... getting a bit out of my depth here! these things are too intelligent which to be honest, i dont need!!!

17-01-07, 04:21 PM	#5
Baph Guest Posts: n/a	If it's wired to the fuse box, it takes positive from the same place as mine. Namely, the ignition. Where is it grounded to? The ignition circuit doesn't give a hoot about engine speed, so I can't see the positive wire affecting things. Maybe they're getting too hot & cutting out? They are more advanced than the older ones, but not by much, and I wouldn't trust that low battery cut off they have, even if it worked properly!

18-01-07, 08:03 AM	#10
yans_sv Guest Posts: n/a	thank you all for your thoughts. i have contacted the shop i bought them from and they are going to speak with their Product Manager at Oxford and get back to me. As I said, the previous model of these grips (on/off turny knob) worked perfectly - this model definately has some form of sensing (not sure what) inside the control unit that is quite frankly OTT! a colleague at work says his original honda heated grips switch off at idle but kick back in when revs are up again (or a higher voltage is detecting due to charging)! ah, the whoes of being a panzy on these cold mornings! thanks again all - keep the thoughts coming in! i will keep you posted as to the Product Managers views.