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I know for sure that emergency stopping using the rear brake hard is not a good idea. In light of this how come bike manufacturers don't give out the option of having ABS on the rear brake only? Does this make sense? It would eliminate the fear of having the bike behave badly. The rear is supposed to be used less in all cases in any case in my knowledge anyways. Does this make sense to you guys?
I'm actually thinking of taking the ABS unit from an existing bike which uses ABS. But I haven't really looked into it yet. Must see how the thing works and what is needed. |
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I've got abs. Works a treat on the road, useless on the track or at the weekend.
I can't see why it couldnt be done, id guess cost comes into it. |
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What Bike have you got it on MJ?
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Recently the proud owner of an FJR1300 abs.
It stops like a good un considering its weight |
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In my experience, for the road weight is a good thing. You have more traction, grip and stability. I feel better with the missus on board. The back wheel stays to the ground and the back bracking does not do the same trickery a when I'm riding alone.
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You also have more momentum, so its pros and cons.
I've found it to be far more stable doing the daily commute. Just getting used to the corners in this weather. No doubt, i'll be flying along at my usual rate in a few more days. |
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Personally, I quite like the idea of being able to lock the rear when needed. I have before now managed to put myself in a situation where I was in serious danger of sitting on a bus drivers knee. The bus was coming the opposite way to me, and the best way I could avoid the damn thing was to hit the rear brake & force the back to step out. This then made me 'oversteer' & quickly released the rear brake to let the wheels roll nicely.
I'm not a fan of ABS, yes it makes hard braking safer, but in an ideal world, no-on should need to brake hard. Yes there have been times I've been completely in the wrong, but still I don't honestly think I'd spend more money to get the same bike with ABS. Just my 2p. |
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This came up over lunch on my DAS course.
The 2 intructors present both said that if they had a bike that came with ABS then they would disable it ASAP Their reasoning was that once you have been on a given bike for a period of time you learn its brakes, therefor you can control it better. If you have ABS you then have the bike second guessing you. Baph's example is a good illustration of this. Personally I cannot comment - I haven't ridden a bike with ABS David |
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Defining my problem:
Riding alone the rear wheel is flighty and I don't feel it holds the ground that much, thus rear braking easily turns into a slide. I spend around the same divided amount of riding, with my wife pillion and without. I find the difference it does on my bike's handling is huge. I may not be the best of riders and have to admit that I've improved my handling over the years so this problem may decrease in time. The thought of having something to help my situation is sort of appealing. I repeatedly lower (when alone) and rise my rear ride height (with her pillion) which I found useful as well. Between us the missus is a bit on the hefty side, if I don't do this the bike will end up looking like a chopper! It may be that I ride in a "bad" posture as I tend to lean a lot forward and find myself squashed against the tank. It may be good doing this in the track for speedy turning but I don't think it's good on the road. Weird, my brother tells me he always finds himself having to slide forward in his SV's seat all the time, whilst I have to do the opposite. |
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Every test of rider vs ABS shows ABS coming out better- even when you take a rider like Niall Mackenzie, James Whitham, or Ben Spies, and get them to do the test, the results are always very close in the dry, even with forewarning- and that doesn't really reflect what ABS is best for, which is emergency braking (who brakes as well without warning as they do with? Not me...) In the wet it's always open and shut, with half-decent ABS.
The real advantage though isn't preventing a lock-up, IMO, it's preventing underbraking. Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not going to pretend I use 100% of the bike's available braking every time I have to slow down in a hurry- I'd sooner use 90% and not lock anything up, than try to stop 5 feet faster but risk a slide, which would make me stop even slower. ABS takes away a lot of the need, or urge, to underuse the brakes for safety. My word... That's a rubbish paragraph. Anyone still with me? ![]()
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