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Old 05-08-07, 09:38 PM   #1
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Default So then Geeks

can i use my Netgera 109mbps rangemax Modem router soley as a cable wireless router or do i have to buy a new bit of kit?

Im cureently ADSL, but will be going to cable when i move.

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Old 05-08-07, 09:54 PM   #2
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Oi! Nothing but silk and egyptian cotton touches my delicate features thank you

Ok, an ADSL modem/router has as it's external interface a telephone socket (RJ-11? can't remember the exact spec). On the inside interface is generally four ethernet ports and a wireless access point.
For cable, you still need a modem to physically drive the line. This is normally supplied by NTL/Virgin, the internal interface of this modem is normally an RJ-45 ethernet socket. Now, a typical "cable router" is exactly the same as your ADSL modem/router but instead of having a telephone socket on the outside interface, it has an ethernet port on the outside interface.

Now, you *might* (very heavy stress on "might") be able to plug an ethernet cable from the internal interface of the cable modem into one of the four ethernet ports on your existing ADSL modem/router. This would typically see the four ports acting purely as a hub. However, this is a bit of a bad idea, as you've just plugged the internet directly into the inside of your home network, ie. it's bypassed any firewalling on the router etc as it's plugged directly inside. Also, cable companies used to (not sure if they still do) lock down their addressing to just one MAC address (the unique manufacturer stamped ID on every network interface card and port). With a "proper" cable router this is fine, as only one MAC address gets seen by the cable co - the external interface of the router; with everything plugged directly into a hub however, you'd have multiple MAC addresses seen by the cable co.

In short, you're going to need to buy a new bit of kit. You could buy a straight cable router and then daisy chain your ADSL one off the back of that to take advantage of the wireless and the four port switch on your existing kit, but in reality, the price of all-in-one cable routers/switches/wireless are just the same as buying a straight cable router and then daisy chaining your old kit off the back of it.
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Old 06-08-07, 06:38 AM   #3
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Yep as he said, new router required.

Good news however about your old one, I am thinking of changing my oldest ADSL router out for one of the ones you are now finding to be surplus.

So if you are not intending stashing the ADSL one for if you ever fo ADSL again then if the price is right, I might take the old one off of your hands.

When I bought my Rangemax (same as yours) I had to go elsewhere than PX World as ALL they had was the Cable Modem version that you are now looking for.

And before any one asks - Yes, I DO have 2 ADSL lines
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Old 06-08-07, 08:58 AM   #4
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2 ADSLs? Probably STILL not as good as 2 Cable lines.
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Old 06-08-07, 11:21 AM   #5
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Yep as he said, new router required.

Good news however about your old one, I am thinking of changing my oldest ADSL router out for one of the ones you are now finding to be surplus.

So if you are not intending stashing the ADSL one for if you ever fo ADSL again then if the price is right, I might take the old one off of your hands.

When I bought my Rangemax (same as yours) I had to go elsewhere than PX World as ALL they had was the Cable Modem version that you are now looking for.

And before any one asks - Yes, I DO have 2 ADSL lines
No, i will be selling my Modem/Router and you will be the 2st person i PM However, it wont be until i have sorted the new BB out, which will be at the end of the month. Which reminds me...
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