Supermoto

[northwind]

In fully road legal mode, but nakedised with the standard naked-model headlight, full set of lights, toolkit and all its fluids full (and its heated grips ) it comes in at 171kg. With the fairings on it's probably about 175-177, but I've not weighed it properly like that. Once the other dymag goes in it'll be below 170 and 175 respectively though.

Sort of a shame I'm so slow really

the more kg the better i want more metal for my money not less kwak used to weigh less than a 100kg (sod all) sv 170 odd the old s was probably much more though with all the crap that was on it

Arent the newer 690 KTM's an update on the LC4? From what Ive read theyre a lot smoother and have a balancer fitted so theyre less vibey

I dont want something balls out hooligan as my next bike, but I am drawn to a trail/streetmoto bike due to the riding position but I need to look for something thats potentially all day comfortable (with stops) and could potentially be suitable for riding 3-4days on the trot. Im looking at something like the Aprilia Peg Strada/Factory but keep on hoping that the KTM 690 will be anywhere near as comfortable. Itll certainly be more hooligan though

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by robchester

Arent the newer 690 KTM's an update on the LC4? From what Ive read theyre a lot smoother and have a balancer fitted so theyre less vibey

I dont want something balls out hooligan as my next bike, but I am drawn to a trail/streetmoto bike due to the riding position but I need to look for something thats potentially all day comfortable (with stops) and could potentially be suitable for riding 3-4days on the trot. Im looking at something like the Aprilia Peg Strada/Factory but keep on hoping that the KTM 690 will be anywhere near as comfortable. Itll certainly be more hooligan though

a 690SM would be better than the SMC version, this guy rode his to the swiss alps and back, obviously not as suitable as a pan european et al but i know which i'd prefer to ride up the stelvio:

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22022

the 690's are more of an overhaul than a tweak of the old LC4 engine, now they have EFI and are pretty much like any other bike in terms of reliability and service intervals, not balls to the wall but a lot more hooligan than your average bike

I am very tempted with a 690, If the seat isnt too bad, and the vibes are controlled then Im sure you could bolt on a slight visor to the front light, fit some handguards, heated grips, and H&B rack and be ready to tour on it.

Im just waiting on Cloggsy seeing this thread, if he still comes on here....

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by robchester

I am very tempted with a 690, If the seat isnt too bad, and the vibes are controlled then Im sure you could bolt on a slight visor to the front light, fit some handguards, heated grips, and H&B rack and be ready to tour on it.

you can buy a gel seat as a hard parts aftermarket item on most KTMs if the original one doesn't work out, and there's plenty of options should you want to try and tour it - i haven't ridden a 690 so can't comment on the vibe issue, the old LC4 engine was like a road drill however, so it could only really get better

was Cloggsy the guy who had a mare with a KTM? i've heard a few stories of people having problems with bikes but generally they're either old (pre 2000) or the new RC8, which was bound to be problematic given that KTM designed a whole new model in a market they'd never tried before. from what i've seen they don't seem to be drastically worse or better than other manufacturers when it comes to that kind of thing

Cloggsy had a 950SM which was problematic. I think he had quite an issue with the dealer as well which led to him taking them to court (M&S in Newcastle). Ive never bought a bike from them but theyre a big outfit and im surprised that with the size of them they would have a universally bad rep

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by robchester

Cloggsy had a 950SM which was problematic. I think he had quite an issue with the dealer as well which led to him taking them to court (M&S in Newcastle). Ive never bought a bike from them but theyre a big outfit and im surprised that with the size of them they would have a universally bad rep

tbh i think it's like any bike, there's always going to be a minority who have problems and when the dealer doesn't play fair either it leaves you with a bitter taste, i know scott here on the island has a 950SM and hasn't had any problems with it, but if he did it'd go to one of the dealers that gets a good rep within the community

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

yes, but of course none of us have even taken a corner at a speed where you can't stop within the distance you can see is clear have we? christ, if you ride like that round a corner then blast down the straights no wonder the SV can keep pace with a moto, a C90 would have a decent chance



can you show me where you mentioned that? i either missed it completely or dismissed it as pointless spunking off to make your own balls feel big... if you fancy a race lets try kinsham raceway, nice and twisty with a few straights where you can "leave me on the open road"




i never said i was any good, it's that damned KTM, so fast it makes even someone like me look like rossi

have you managed to get that SV down to within 60kg of the weight on my KTM yet then? or is it still an overweight underpowered barge?

Getting the destinct impression you are taking this personally. As you say your KTM is certainly a very impressive machine and I have no doubt in the right hands it's quite capable of going very fast indeed. I also know that you have to be fairly talented, and very committed, to get that last bit out of it and unless you are going to take it onto a track buying a machine such as yours is not normally a sensible idea for your average road rider. There are of course exceptions to every rule and if indeed you are in the habit of riding the way you describe then quite frankly I would prefer you to stay on your island, that way I won't have to worry about meeting you coming the other way. The invitation was actually genuine, but I can see it wasn't taken as such so no loss there, or at least not to me. You can stay in your own little world and not venture out where reality might just not be so appealing.
Good luck. RH

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Getting the destinct impression you are taking this personally. As you say your KTM is certainly a very impressive machine and I have no doubt in the right hands it's quite capable of going very fast indeed. I also know that you have to be fairly talented, and very committed, to get that last bit out of it and unless you are going to take it onto a track buying a machine such as yours is not normally a sensible idea for your average road rider. There are of course exceptions to every rule and if indeed you are in the habit of riding the way you describe then quite frankly I would prefer you to stay on your island, that way I won't have to worry about meeting you coming the other way. The invitation was actually genuine, but I can see it wasn't taken as such so no loss there, or at least not to me. You can stay in your own little world and not venture out where reality might just not be so appealing.
Good luck. RH

so it IS still an overweight, underpowered barge?