Supermoto

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

not really, very few people go to the lengths of modifying the suspension of their SVs, most just realise the limitations and buy a better bike...

so which is it? "built specifically for competing in special stage rallies" or "fairly common, with a few suspension mods" - it's just a shame there isn't a magical "lose 60kg" mod that makes the experience less like piloting an ocean liner and more like riding a light bike

if you think a sv is like piloting a barge you really need to try some bigger bikes.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by zsv650

if you think a sv is like piloting a barge you really need to try some bigger bikes.

it's all relative

the SV is a barge relative to the 560 in the same way a harley davidson is a barge compared to the SV

weight doesnt matter it's how well it's balanced that counts just ask somebody who rides a pan.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by zsv650

weight doesnt matter it's how well it's balanced that counts

the handling is affected by where the weigh is located on the bike, but you can't hide 60kg on the SV and not notice it when riding back to back with something much lighter, i promise you - if anything the SV's mass is lower than the 560 but the difference is obvious

[Red Herring]

Dear Lone Wolf.
Nobody is disputing that the SMR is lighter, faster, more expensive, and definitely more orange than the SV. If I wanted to go Supermoto racing I would pick your SMR over my SV every time. But the OP didn't want to go racing, he was talking about a fun bike that he could commute on, which means he wants to enjoy riding it, not taking it apart every weekend. He needs a bike with a degree of flexibility. I think he came to that conclusion around about page five. If I was given a choice of the two bikes I would definitely have yours, but then I'd sell it, buy mine and then buy the missus something with the change.....That is because for what I want to do the SV is in my view the "better" bike, but it's a free world and you're big enough to make your own decisions, and your needs may well be different to mine. I'm sure the OP will have enjoyed this banter and will have been able to make a more informed decision as a result if it, which is great because that is what a Forum is all about.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Dear Lone Wolf.
Nobody is disputing that the SMR is lighter, faster, more expensive, and definitely more orange than the SV.

it is isn't it, now hold that thought...

Originally Posted by Red Herring

But the OP didn't want to go racing, he was talking about a fun bike that he could commute on, which means he wants to enjoy riding it, not taking it apart every weekend.

i'm casually ignoring the fallacy that you'll be taking the engine of a 560SMR apart on a regular basis (which unless you count removing three plugs to change the oil as "taking it apart" is a load of the proverbial), show me an example of where i recommended my bike as suitable for what he wants...

go on...

i'll wait...

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back yet? didn't find one did you?

he asked about several models, i gave him my opinion of those models and made recommendations of an LC4 or a DRZ as a more practical daily use supermoto...

oddly enough he didn't ask about the SV, assuming he is registered here because he already has or has had one he knows what they're like and is asking about a supermoto because he fancies something different.

so the thread gets onto the DRZ and someone asks me to compare the DRZ to the SV, then you wade in asserting that the SV is faster than the supermotos, something you later concede is incorrect (see first quote above). just because the SV is more practical as a daily bike doesn't change the fact.

we all have to weigh up what we're looking for a bike and buy the one most suitable, and as a daily ride or distance commuter there's no doubt in my mind which of the machines in my garage i'd be grabbing the keys for, but on a day like today with perfect blue skies and island roads the decision is just as crystal clear

so... back on topic then... "Does anyone have the experience of owning a supermoto???"

Does anyone know which is the fastest out of a sv 650 or a supermoto???

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by lexinoo

Does anyone know which is the fastest out of a sv 650 or a supermoto???

I live in Malta, a small island with very poor roads generally so a Supermoto makes more sense than my SV for daily commutes. I'm leaving the SV for small tours in Sicily with the missus and for Sunday morning blasts. There's no nead for big cc's, I'm actually using a Hyosung XRX125SM for communting but thought that this bike might be more fun, what do you think?

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

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so... back on topic then... "Does anyone have the experience of owning a supermoto???"

Yup, see post 18 and 43. Perhaps you'd like to read them before suggesting I "waded in". What I did was compare the SV to a Supermoto, pointing out that they both have their advantages and disadvantages. You on the other hand seem intent on stating the blindingly obvious, that your SMR is lighter than an SV. So perhaps we could bring some purpose to continuing this debate by you explaining how being 60kg lighter is an advantage when riding on the road?