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Old 06-05-09, 11:00 AM   #21
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HWith a good grip pattern like the roadsmarts which have slick for the last 10-15mm of the tyre, the bit that your only likely to use in the dry unless you are mental in the wet...
But with good tread at the edges you can be more confident (if not mental) in the wet..... depends what you want from a tyre. I like good all round performance but don't need super sticky tyres.
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Old 06-05-09, 11:18 AM   #22
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But with good tread at the edges you can be more confident (if not mental) in the wet..... depends what you want from a tyre. I like good all round performance but don't need super sticky tyres.

Its not the need. Its just when im on long tight corners on the edge of the tyre (180* corner on a biggish roundabout) I can sometimes get my Pilot power front pushing a little. Something a little stickier at extreme lean would just make it that little bit better on this kind of road is all. But I want something that can also do 14K miles a year (or a big portion of them) without wearing out too quick or in the wrong place...
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Old 06-05-09, 02:37 PM   #23
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But I want something that can also do 14K miles a year (or a big portion of them) without wearing out too quick or in the wrong place...
You want the moon on a stick then. You either have grip or you have long life. Every Dual compound tyre I've tried hasnt IMHO offered any benefit over the Z6's my GSXR is currently shod with...

Not when you factor in the short life 3K ish and the extra cost involved to.

Dont fall for marketing hype Sport Touring tyres are just as competant in the dry for the majority of riders and in poor weather conditions such as rain or cold they'll do better than a sport tyre will.

14k a year, your mad if you fit anything else than a Sport Touring tyre IMHO.
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Old 06-05-09, 03:27 PM   #24
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How long they last? You got a link to the review?

Wish they would do a triple compound going from hard to medium to sofy/very soft! With a good grip pattern like the roadsmarts which have slick for the last 10-15mm of the tyre, the bit that your only likely to use in the dry unless you are mental in the wet...
I have lost the link but I'll have a look. If I remember it was in a german magazine/website but was all in English but it was a while ago.

As for your dream tyre, well it doesn't exist. You want the grip of a hypersports with the mileage of a tourer and that just won't happen I'm afraid.
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Old 06-05-09, 03:45 PM   #25
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I have lost the link but I'll have a look. If I remember it was in a german magazine/website but was all in English but it was a while ago.

As for your dream tyre, well it doesn't exist. You want the grip of a hypersports with the mileage of a tourer and that just won't happen I'm afraid.
Why not - the problem is that the softer rubber wears away - right?

So........ drop the size of the wheels down to 12" and add 5" more rubber to the tyre

Simples.
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Why not - the problem is that the softer rubber wears away - right?

So........ drop the size of the wheels down to 12" and add 5" more rubber to the tyre

Simples.
Interesting handling and ground clearance issues when it gets near to the wear bars.........I don't think you have thought this concept through very well have you SK?
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Interesting handling and ground clearance issues when it gets near to the wear bars.........I don't think you have thought this concept through very well have you SK?
Oh, go taser yourself.........................

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Old 06-05-09, 07:17 PM   #28
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and then ironically, Chris, launched their own dual compound tyre - the VP2.

So what does that tell you about their continually variable belt system?

Continental claim the same for the road attack (12% more rubber on the road) and put another couple of mm of rubber on the tyre so they can get good mileage and stickiness from one compound. But by putting on extra rubber, you're going to get more squaring off effect in the long term.

The BT016 seems to be the best system for all round use but I'd like to hear from Bridgestone about their wet weather performance. Do the three compounds have the same, greater or lesser wet grip? I don't want a tyre that gives *less* grip when I lean over in the wet due to cooler, sportier rubber. It's all very well having Hypersport rubber at the edge in the dry but not so good if it's like riding on a cold Supercorsa pro in the wet when you get to the edge!

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Seems to be a bit of a back pedal yes. But it appears to work, the storms that I've had seem to flatten their profile gradually rather than going sharply square. Maybe this doesn't work so well with properly sporty rubber?
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Old 06-05-09, 08:01 PM   #29
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Seems to be a bit of a back pedal yes. But it appears to work, the storms that I've had seem to flatten their profile gradually rather than going sharply square. Maybe this doesn't work so well with properly sporty rubber?
My bt014s have got actual corners on them from the motorway PR2s and D220s never flattened like these.
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My bt014s have got actual corners on them from the motorway PR2s and D220s never flattened like these.
Because you have the worst tyres in the world.
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