So does doing clutchless changes muck up your box?

Getting on for 30k, clutchless upshift from 3rd upwards nearly all the time, i'd estimate 75-80% of the time. Lower gears, i prefer clutching it, to keep things smooth. Depends on the conditions of each gearchange as to whether i do or not though.

Downshifts, i always use the clutch, it just feels smoother and less upsetting for the rear tyre.

Still on original clutch, and box is sweet.


If you know what your doing you can do it in the car too. Listen to your engine, it's always communicating when it's being stressed and/or used correctly. Mind you, i drive a tiptronic anyway so what the hell is a clutch........

I'm sure the clutch cable on my mz wasn't connected to anything anyway, as after a few miles it was just as difficult to change gear clutch or not... but I always use the clutch on my sv, no particular reason for or against, except that they must have had a reason to put it in there.

When I'm bimbling along, I'll ride the clutch quite hard. When I'm pushing the bike hard, I'll punch up & down the box without touching the clutch at all (downshifts with blipping & no clutch to use engine braking).

It depends on my riding.

On average, I don't touch the clutch going up the box, and I do on the way down. But that's only a slim majority of the time.

The bike is just short of 16k miles, and I haven't heard any grinding or hit any false neutrals yet.

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Originally Posted by Scoobs

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...ess#post894335

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

Not evidence though one way or the other.

Hard facts please.

I didn't write that just for the fun of it, it's experience from a number of years fooling with them there motorbicycles.

use the clutch on the race bike to get off the line and do not touch it for the rest of the race!
up shifts, down shifts and all!

havent had a problem yet....

20k miles on the Gixxer, 13k miles on the 'Blade, and about 7k miles on the Falco, 99% of them without the clutch. I also probably ran the SV for about 10k miles doing clutchless changes (up, not down - down is harder to get right).

Never had a problem with any of the gearboxes. I often use the clutch 1st -> 2nd, but generally all the rest are without. I find I ride smoother and time my gear changes better.

But that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Baph

.... hit any false neutrals yet.

Hmm, i've never considered what the cause of a false neutral is. Anyone wanna enlighten me?

Originally Posted by haggis

Hmm, i've never considered what the cause of a false neutral is. Anyone wanna enlighten me?

To my (limited) knowledge, it's the black art of finding a gap between the gears. Quite an art form on a constant mesh box.

[Rich]

Sounds simple but i always thought the clutch was there for a reason . I think its all part of the fun, fair enough on track bikes but no way would i risk it on my pride an joy. Everyones got their way of doing things though, i appreciate that!

I'm glad this came up......I had a couple of "slipping into neutral" moments when riding a bid harder than normal...(still learning) the other day.....this was going 3rd-4th and 4rt-5th.

I thought there migh be something wrong......

My mate said it might be the position of my levers and the way i'm shifting.........suggested to forget about the clutch while shifting up.

So thanks....Interesting read.