Oh dear!

As other have said if you think the engine has sezied in someway the last thing you wnat to do i keep trying to start it.

Turn the engine over by hand (make sure you are going the right way) This takes some effort but not a huge amount, I would also use a relativley long wrench as it gives you more control.

[jambo]

Didn't feel like going with the advice offered in the other thread then?


OK, as others have said, go through this methodically. You may well not need a new engine, but if the cam chain has jumped on the cam or crank teeth and pushed the valves into the piston it's possible the engine's dead. This may not be what's happened but we have to accept there's a fair chance of it. A lot of the time you will need new valves or a new head and the piston and rest of the engine will be fine. The problem is, this has now gone from an easy peasy job to a relatively involved one.....

Best of luck.

Jambo

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

all lights stay on nothing dims.

haven't read the rest of the thread to see if this has been suggested but surely if you follow the logic

nothing dims-->

therefore the starter motor isn't drawing current-->

therefore the starter motor, or the circuitry to connect it, is faulty-->



before you dismantle the engine that's where i would start

[jambo]

If it's just making a clicking noise it's possible the battery is just flat, Lone wolf makes a good point there. Try charging the battery, it takes about 10 miles of running to put the charge back in that you take out by starting it. You've been starting it lots and not going anywhere, the battery may be low.


Fingers crossed!

Charged it over night, not battery . Im rubbish with mechanics so im getting my mate do use your suggestions. Hopefully it can all be sorted for cheap.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

Charged it over night, not battery . Im rubbish with mechanics so im getting my mate do use your suggestions. Hopefully it can all be sorted for cheap.

if the battery isn't holding the charge it ain't going to work, have you tried jumping it from another battery

if it's not the battery it could be a faulty starter motor or relay, as someone else suggested

if you whip the plugs out and wheel the bike as someone else suggested it'll be obvious if the valves have fouled the piston head

well jsut took off the fairing, looked at engine oil level, cant even see it ......... its all getting worse, what can i do now?

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

well jsut took off the fairing, looked at engine oil level, cant even see it ......... its all getting worse, what can i do now?

Did you get the bike upright, off the stand? You shouldnt have lost any oil; this would reveal itself as a rather large puddle. 2.5 litres is alot, you know!

I think you need to get the bike into the back of a van and to a reputable garage, explain to them the problem and ask them to sort it out, and let you know what the problem is and how much it'll cost when they find the problem

Sorry this is happening to you mate, but it can be fixed, so dont worry.

Matt

[jambo]

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

well jsut took off the fairing, looked at engine oil level, cant even see it ......... its all getting worse, what can i do now?

Just to check, as per the other thread, when you check the engine oil level, the bike is upright, on both wheels, and NOT lent over on the side stand right? If it's off vertical, the oil will be over at the lower side of the engine, NOT at the correct level in the sight glass.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

what can i do now?

if you've checked the oil correctly and it's that low then take the plugs out to relieve the compression, if the bike won't roll forwards or back at all with the gearbox in 1st then the engine may well be seized...

sorry


if it does roll then the problem sounds more electric to me still...