your views if you will

[ophic]

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Woah! You're throwing the cat among the pigeons there!

Although you have said you don't condone it, I don't really think it is right to put homosexuality and paedophilia in a sort of comparitive sentence like that...

I agree with MBK here. Homosexuality is 2 consenting adults. Completely different thing. It's like saying we'll eventually come to accept rape & murder. I think not.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by ophic

The point here is that some sick b@st@rd left a toddler to die in the desert. If I ever caught that person i'd keep the *&%$er alive just so I could torture him for the rest of his days. It's just unbelievably sick. Imagine being that kid.

I'm with you mate. Death is too quick and too humane for this kind of scum. let them suffer like they made their victims suffer.

Only thing this story proves tho is that NOTHING is a deterrent to some scumbags. he knew full well what his punishment would be in that country yet still committed the crimes (allegedly).

the only time i'm in favour of the death penalty is when the perp is caught in the act or running away from it etc, ie ABSOLUTELY no doubt, none of this beyond reasonable doubt stuff for me.

homosexual rape = rape = wrong
rape of a minor = peodophillia = wrong
consensual sex of adults = right

its not really something you can compare, rape of an adult is about as close as you can get to that of peodophillia, its nonconsensual sex, yes it may be the genetic make up of these people but the same could be siad of rapists thiefs murderers and any other criminal

if a guys guilty of a crime like this against a minor, i say dont let a judge sentce them let the family of the victim,, if they want hard labour or death its their choice due to there beliefs and consitution, me i.d ask to be left in a room for 24hrs with the evil **** and they could have the pieces that were left afterwards

Originally Posted by madness

Now, I'm going to throw something else into the pot, and by doing so I'm no way condoning paedophilia.

Not that many decades ago, homosexuality was thought upon as being disgusting and perverted and was indeed illegal. Nowdays it is acceptable and I believe it has even been proven that it is due to the genetic make up of individuals. In future, will we find that the attitude to paedophillia changes.

Can I ask are you a parent????

Judging from your statement I assume not. I`ve never heard anything so ridiculous.... Homosexuals consent to a sexual act, young children do not and cannot consent so it is therefore rape and far worse than rape in my view. I actually see the law regarding paedophillia becoming more strict. The sentences handed out are so ridiculous that they have to be toughened up... make em tougher and we might see the statistics drop.

As for the death penalty.... if it is proven without a shadow of a doubt then in this particular scenario yes I agree with the sentence.

[keith_d]

Personally, I'm against the death sentence, simply because no justice system is perfect. Every so often we hear about cases where modern DNA evidence has shown that someone previously convicted was innocent. If we'd had the death sentence it would have been too late.

The debate about the function(s) of prison is much more interesting. Which of the following is prison supposed to provide?

* Detention (preventing someone from committing offenses)
* Deterrence (detering other possible offenders)
* Rehabilitation (preventing future offences by prisoners)
* Revenge (victims seeing justice is being done)
* Deprivation (deterring future offenses by prisoners)

Something of an ethical minefield where knee-jerk reactions like "hanging's too good for 'em" don't fit very well. Indeed, the whole concept of Justice is pretty darn subjective.

Just my opinions,

Keith.

Madness, these weren't nearly legal teenagers, this were young children and toddlers.

If society evolves to accept paedofiles and their 'pratices', then we have some serious problems.

I know you are not condoning it, as it is impossible, but think about what you said mate.

I totally agree with the death penalty.

I also agree with an 'eye for an eye' policy. This paedophile should not be beheaded, he should have the same thing done to him as he did to that poor child that died out in the desert.

He should be raped and then left to die of dehydration. If he thinks the child can cope with the pain, then surely he should be able to cope...

I totally agree to the death penalty. If this sad b*****d was going to leave the child in the desert then they should tie him down in the middle of the desert and leave him there to die a painful but very very slow death just like he wanted this child to

I knew that would get some reactions!

As I said previously , I in no way condone paedophilia, I believe it's the sickest, most evil thing that an adult can do against a child. What I was trying to provoke, which I obviously failed to do, is a little thought that, if paedophilia is in some way genetic, and that paedophiles cannot control thier sick cravings, does that automatically give us the right to kill them.

In answer to Speedy Claires question, No I'm not a parent, I wouldn't want to bring a child into the sort of world that we live in today. I world where they are taught not to trust and to be afraid, a world with little tolerance. But just because I'm not a parent that doesn't make me any less horrified by this story than someone who is a parent. I know what I'd do if it was my child, it would involve kidnap, petrol, a human bonfire and a long agonising death.