Frozen bike

Originally Posted by 454697819

well starting a sewing machine dont take a lot of effort does it?? :P

Gosh... I can remember when I referred to all Japanese bikes as sounding like sewing machines... must have been when I was trying to bump start my Bantam...

[Biker Biggles]

And----get an Optimate battery charger.An hour or two a week on that will mean your battery always has enough ooomph in it to start the thing whatever the temperature.If you don't park near a power socket try an extension lead or arrange somewhere every so often.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

And----get an Optimate battery charger.An hour or two a week on that will mean your battery always has enough ooomph in it to start the thing whatever the temperature.If you don't park near a power socket try an extension lead or arrange somewhere every so often.

I can vouch for an Optimate. I plug mine every evening and the bike starts 1st time.

But, like Warren, I ride a H*nda

[northwind]

The other thing is, whacking the choke on full isn't always the best way- you can end up flooding it if you're not careful. I used to get this quite a lot, now I start with a smaller amount of choke and work up if neccesary. I believe short bursts of the starter work better than constant too, seems to work for me.

But then, it seems like what works for one bike may not work for the next...

My old GPz had the patented Kwak choke which would race the engine to 4000rpm at startup. This isn't a good idea.

A bit of starter here and there is better as it gives the battery time to recover.

The SV has no choke, FI and starts like a trooper. Even if it isn't a H*nda

Localhost, I've got a brand new bike cover, still wrapped, that I could sell you, if you like. I enthusiastically bought a whole lot of new stuff when I bought the bike a few months ago, but don't use the cover, because I have a garage. Cost me £29.99, yours for £20? It's an Oxford Products waterproof one (not burn proof).
Jon.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by The Basket

The SV has no choke, FI and starts like a trooper. Even if it isn't a H*nda

SV Fi has a fast idle though, basically does the same job as a choke (or more accurately, enricher)

Originally Posted by northwind

SV Fi has a fast idle though, basically does the same job as a choke (or more accurately, enricher)

To my knowledge, FI gives the right mixture of air/fuel to suit temp and revs. This is why it doesn't need a choke. So it will run rich on start up but usually only to 2300rpm on these cold mornings. And then settles down a bit lower. Finding a suitable idle speed when warm.

One thing I have noticed is that the rear D220 is cold even after a good run. Could explain some of the slides I have been having.

[northwind]

The SV's FI is fixed map, it doesn't correct the mix for temperature, air ressure or temperature, or for induction or exhaust changes- it does the same thing, all the time, exactly as the carbed SV does.

But if I have it right, it's got a fast idle which either happens on every start, or on every cold start (not sure which, think it's every start going by the smell of a pack of FI SVs starting at the same time from warm...) which enriches the mix to get the same effect as a carbed bike's enricher control- just that it's automatic not rider controlled.

Originally Posted by northwind

The SV's FI is fixed map, it doesn't correct the mix for temperature, air ressure or temperature, or for induction or exhaust changes- it does the same thing, all the time, exactly as the carbed SV does.

But if I have it right, it's got a fast idle which either happens on every start, or on every cold start (not sure which, think it's every start going by the smell of a pack of FI SVs starting at the same time from warm...) which enriches the mix to get the same effect as a carbed bike's enricher control- just that it's automatic not rider controlled.

If that is the case, it completley wastes having FI in the first place. I thought FI was more than a petrol squirter. I am now intrigued by your answer. I will try and find out more. My Google search engine will not know what hit it