Locking rear wheel

[Blue Flame]

Originally Posted by jonboy

That's actually different, yes it was the cylinder misfiring, but then (and flame me for being harsh again) he opened up the throttle in frustration (I'm guessing) and and the cylinder fired again, and the outcome was (sorry about this) somewhat preventable, though completely understandable.

(hope he's nicely on the mend though, as per my post in that thread)
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OK.

Here it is from my perspective.

Travelling down country road and cylinder packs in. Didn't open throttle in frustration but in order to ensure bike does not cut out as earlier experiences prior to 'sorting' the problem had demonstrated. Cylinder kicks in again surging me forward towards the bend.

**** pants...grab brakes...lose control...broken back.

As I have said in my post on Friday I think that there are potential lessons that I can take away from the incident. One of the lessons is that perhaps I was possibly focussing too much on the problems and not on my surroundings?

I don't know but it is something to think about and hopefully learn from.

However all of this is somewhat irrelevant when considered against the fact that if the front cylinder issue did not come into play then I do not consider that I would be sitting here with a broken back and wrist.

When looking at incidents there is always a number of causes that contribute to an accident however there is quite often one root cause that if eliminated remove the potential for that incident to occur.

In my case I fully believe that the front cylinder issue is the root cause and is one which I am seriously considering having both first an informal then a formal chat with Suzuki about.

Originally Posted by northwind

If it's slid far enough out and you do that, it'll probably highside. In a straight line, riding out the slide is probably the safest thing to do IMO.

Not if you're gentle, which is sort of the whole point of my argument (well okay, rantings )


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Originally Posted by Blue Flame

OK.

Here it is from my perspective.

Travelling down country road and cylinder packs in. Didn't open throttle in frustration but in order to ensure bike does not cut out as earlier experiences prior to 'sorting' the problem had demonstrated. Cylinder kicks in again surging me forward towards the bend.

sh*t pants...grab brakes...lose control...broken back.

As I have said in my post on Friday I think that there are potential lessons that I can take away from the incident. One of the lessons is that perhaps I was possibly focussing too much on the problems and not on my surroundings?

I don't know but it is something to think about and hopefully learn from.

However all of this is somewhat irrelevant when considered against the fact that if the front cylinder issue did not come into play then I do not consider that I would be sitting here with a broken back and wrist.

When looking at incidents there is always a number of causes that contribute to an accident however there is quite often one root cause that if eliminated remove the potential for that incident to occur.

In my case I fully believe that the front cylinder issue is the root cause and is one which I am seriously considering having both first an informal then a formal chat with Suzuki about.

I hear what you say and there's more than a grain of truth in it. I don't want peeps thinking I was critisising, just trying to deconstruct what actually happened and be constructive.

And hey, really very sorry to hear of your injuries. But purely out of curiosity, were you wearing a full length back-protector? Just trying to find out (over a longterm period) from those riders who have sadly suffered back injury whether a back protector made any difference.


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[northwind]

Originally Posted by jonboy

Not if you're gentle, which is sort of the whole point of my argument (well okay, rantings )
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That's expecting an awful lot. When it hits suddenly, as it can, even an experienced rider could be hard pushed to pull that off. But riding it out safely, that's relatively easy (and well done here from the sounds of it) and IMO less likely to end in Badness.

Originally Posted by northwind

That's expecting an awful lot. When it hits suddenly, as it can, even an experienced rider could be hard pushed to pull that off.

Nah, not me . Yes okay I take your point .


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[Blue Flame]

Originally Posted by jonboy

I hear what you say and there's more than a grain of truth in it. I don't want peeps thinking I was critisising, just trying to deconstruct what actually happened and be constructive.

And hey, really very sorry to hear of your injuries. But purely out of curiosity, were you wearing a full length back-protector? Just trying to find out (over a longterm period) from those riders who have sadly suffered back injury whether a back protector made any difference.


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I didn't think that you were criticising however I did think that assumptions rather than facts were being written and I hoped that my thoughts on it would help.

On the subject of back protectors..... other than the built in protectors on my jacket I was not wearing an independent protector. It is certainly something for the shopping list along with the new helmet (incidentally the leathers were undamaged).

The crash was at fairly slow speed however I believe the damage was done on a vertical (as opposed to a slanting) kerb. (It was at a small bridge).

Good morning people

Trust we had a good night's sleep and didn't spend too much time worrying about watery spark plugs!

The mechanic came out last and fitted 2 new spark plugs and they're now sealed with silicon grease. Ordering fenda extenda today.

Took her out for a spin last night and she ran like a dream.

Rock on.

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I remember when I was taking lessons before my test (4 yrs ago) the instructor told me that the most common cause of rear wheel lockups was pulling in the clutch and pressing on the rear brake at the same time. He said that when we go to brake in a hurry we automatically go for both levers (after years of riding push bikes) and this mixed with standing on the rear brake causes the rear wheel to lock. He said that it takes a lot of practice not to pull on both levers (some find it easier than others) but it is a must.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I think that some bikes suffer worse than others. My Curvey was fine up until it passsed the 33K mark and then it started donig it.

50k miles and not a twitch. I guess I have one good SV [wonder if the previous owner greased the plugs] and been very lucky.